So who takes the title of being the worst coach in the past 10 years since TDECU opened up?
A. CDH
B. Levine
C. Applewhite
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C. Applewhite
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Dana.
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Due to his contract, Iād have to go with Dana.
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We should have learned something with the first coach named Dana. Iām seeing a patternā¦
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Letās open it up, is he better than Heltonā¦ at least better than Dimel. What a low bar he has set
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CDH and it is not even nearly debatable at this point. The man has been given EVERYTHING compared to the other 2 - time, $, facilities, a P5 conference, backing of admin including the shot caller billionaire, etcā¦ and he has completely squandered it.
Worse, once he is inevitably fired, his refusal to recruit quality HS kids at a reasonable rate will result in whatever dearth of talent we supposedly had from Apple looking like CDH walked into Alabama level talent when he got here in 2019. It is going to take a couple years to clean up the mess CDH has us in especially with few to no āgimmesā on the schedule anymore.
The only real question is which Dana has been the worst coach weāve had in almost 40 years? Dimel or Holgorsen? Iād lean Dimel but if CDH and Feritta ram through another couple trash seasons on us like this one then Holgy might be the blue ribbon winner as the worst football coach UH has ever had.
All this makes no mention of things off the field, like ācanāt coach this ****ā, ājust compete not winā, constant excuses and deflections, etcā¦
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For the Apple haters, not saying he was good per se, but what did he do in less than 3 years that has no comparable analog to anything negative CDH has done? Iād like to hear it. Facts please.
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Oh Applewhite.
Dana had a Top 20 finish and 12 win team, unlike the other two, playing in the same league, so it canāt be him.
Levine had lots of incomprehensible defeats, but at least he could recruit.
That leaves Applewhite, who embarrassed himself on TV with Oliver, and got humiliated in a bowl game.
Iād say Applewhite was the worst, given that.
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Yes.
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Dana. For apathy generally in the program. Applewhite had more program interest.
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I hated Applewhite too with the hiring of DāOnofrio but he never won a bowl game.
But if Belk keeps up with this pathetic coaching, I will put DāOnofrio above him lol.
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Less success though.
No bowl victories.
Bowl humiliation.
No ranked finish.
No 12 win season, despite playing in the same league.
Definitely Applewhite.
Doesnāt mean Dana was necessarily good.
But he was comparatively less bad.
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Law,
Hypothetical. I get the 2021 season being ranked and getting 12 wins and that was great and all. However, letās say CDH gets 2 more years and he goes 4-8 in 2024 and 5-7 in 2025 and has a sub .500 record after 7 years and 5 losing seasons in 7. Will you still consider Apple worse than CDH? At some point you have to consider overall body of work and canāt continue to primarily hold onto one counter point, albeit a strong one, right? So my question to you is what point are you willing to allow a growing avalanche of negative results to trump 1 really positive result or are you dead set that CDH can never have a worse tenure than Apple?
Applewhite, but Dana is closing in fast
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Itās Dana when you consider the fact that heās capable of being better but his bad habits & laziness will do him in
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Belk
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If Dana loses this weekend and then canāt turn it around next season, I might pick him last.
But not yet.
Weāll see.
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Some facts regarding Appleās tenure in the 2017-2018 seasons:
We still averaged something close to 30K fans in those years (albeit a lot of credit should go to momentum from Herman years). CDH didnāt bring us 30K until this year really and averaged closer to 25K prior to this year.
Overall Record: 15-10 with 2 winning seasons (7-5 in 2017 and 8-5 in 2018)
2017 season we lost to: TT (P5), 2 win Tulsa (oof!), ranked Memphis, 5 win Tulane (oof but less than Tulsa), and a 10 win Fresno in our bowl game by 6 points. We beat Rice, ehhhmm, Arizona (P5), and a ranked USF. Other than the terrible Tulsa loss, and maybe Tulane Iād say it was a pretty solid season actually.
2018 season we started 7-1 and were ranked nearly in the top 15. GREAT start right? Then we lost 3 of 4 to finish conference play but 2 of those, Temple and Memphis ended with winning seasons. SMU loss blew though. Army, yeah that stunk, but I donāt ever recall having that many injuries during a bowl game and it just snowballed us plus we already were 8-4 and locked into a solid season. 8-5 or 9-4, neither would leave us ranked in the end so ehhh yeah sucks to lose that bad but did it really matter that much at that point all things considered?
BTW, our worst losses under Apple, the 2017 loss to Tulsa and 2018 loss to SMU were on the road though at least.
Apple went 9-3 at home in his 2 years. You could generally count on him to bring home a W at homeā¦it was worth going. CDH, in 5 years, is 14-15 at home and if you take away the abberation season in 2021, then his ātypical seasonā home record is: 9-14 - sub .500!!! Bottom line with fans not on the wagon and him losing so much at home it makes for a miserable experience in the stands during the CDH tenure. Heck even Levine was 14-8 at home in his 3 years. Perhaps one of CDHās greatest sins is he canāt be counted on to win us most of our home games and this really leaves a sour taste in fans mouths when theyāve invested years of time and $ to see at best coin-flip football.
I just donāt buy Apple being the worse but thatās me.
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