Lol im not playing with you dude. Quote the post and offer context or get the non response that you deserve.
Your one anecdote like UNC is good. It was a very nice win but Cignetti seems special. Tulane has been solid too.
“Meanwhile JMU new QB, new head coach, 24+ new players with G5 talent steamrolled UNC in Chappel Hill last week.”
No…I wanted a coach that didn’t enter with a rebuild mindset but rather with one that had to find a way to win every game in front of him.
That… endless ‘we are building for tomorrow’ mindset can become toxic.
Do your best to win the game in front of you.
Kneeling at the end of the 1st half was one of those ‘rebuild’ type of details we do not need
Oh ok. Yea i was making two points. One, people suggested it’s Fritz’ first year, don’t expect much. I said look at Chesney. Then people tried to appeal to lack of talent, i said look at what JMU did to UNC in Chappel Hill.
JMU also lost 55 players, brought in 64 and only had 4 retuning starters. Lol there’s no excuse.
JMU had a lot more coming back than we did.
24 new players versus 60+ is apples to oranges.
Even Deion Sanders couldn’t produce a winner last year under similar circumstances.
You buy a pierce of land. It’s a toxic waste dump. Do you clear out the toxic waste or build on top of it?
CWF inherited a neglected toxic waste dump, He has cleaned it out and is trying to see what he can build with.
By the time CWF came in, the really good QB aisle at the store was sold out. So we got what we have. Yes, the offense is bad. It may not get a whole lot better this year. Don’t underestimate the losses on the O-line either.
Guess what? When you have 5 coaches in 10 years you rebuild unless you’re happy with what you already have. CTL > CTH > CMA > CDH > CWF. That’s our lineage. When we went from CMA to CDH we had a change in philosophy. We had the same thing when we went from CBY to CJP. When you have a really bad situation, you don’t keep the same thing going, you make changes. Changes take time.
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Curt Cignetti has done great things at IU for a fired coach. JMU’s new coach is from Holy Cross and is also solid.
Purdue’s second year coach isn’t very good.
How’s UCLA’s first year coach?
My beef is that CWF wanted Chriss so he could come in and compete. That didn’t work well. McMickle was third string and may have been a viable option but is out for the season.
But it wasn’t a toxic waste dump!
CKS Inherited a toxic waste dump.
CWF was given the most resources, at his disposable, than any other head FB coach in UH history!
Highest coaching pool $$ and we are literally building a new Football operations building facility for him
HE, as the coach, could have leveraged those resources/facilities to get transfer players.
HE, as the coach, had enough $$ to hire a competent OC knowing the situation.
CKS had no such leverage when he took over…everything was a dump
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Anybody but Chriss at this point. Fritz is saying he’s given them both a shot but when Chriss comes in he doesn’t throw. It’s like a faux competition. Hell put in Wijay. Lol
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According to Lindy’s, JMU returned four of five OLine starters from an 11-2 team.
We returned one from a 4-8 team.
Apples to oranges Bro.
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There were people ready to ride CDH out of town on a rail. He got fired because he quit recruiting. What do you think this team would have looked like had he stayed? It would still be the same QB.
Remember the scene in Pretty Woman where Julia Roberts wanted to go shopping on Rodeo Drive with all kinds of money and nobody would sell to her? The OC for the Detroit Lions was a hot HC commodity. Could have made lots of money. Decided to stay as the OC in Detroit. It takes two. Yes, you can have the money, doesn’t do you nay good if no one wants it.
We weren’t going to get a hot shot OC. We were going to get an up and coming positions coach or an OC from a school where it wasn’t working out. Wasn’t our last DC and up and coming coach? How’d that work out? 4th and Belk anyone?
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Lol don’t try to move the goalposts by focussing on a position group. You said they brought back way more back.
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There’s no coming back from that. 
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They did bring way more back WHERE IT COUNTS MOST……IN THE TRENCHES.
Where is our biggest weakness?
Hint: OLine.
And without that, no QB and no offense can possibly succeed.
JMU had NO such problem.
MUCH easier to come in and have a good offense when you return nearly your entire OLine from an 11 win team versus returning few hogs from a four win team.
Apples to oranges Bro.
NOT close.
BAD comparison.
You were caught OVERLOOKING that OBVIOUS difference in 4K.
Some people just don’t know ball apparently.
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Lol nope. You focussing on a position group after you hinted at a holistic sample is clearly a poor save on your part. They didn’t have A LOT more coming back.
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In defense of WF and the situation he inherited, it’s was bad as it could get. DH left the cupboard bare. Late hire because his Tulane team was in the a bowl game and being the kind of person, he is, coached them…WF came in to situation not of his own making. But what is his own making is the team he’s ’ putting out there on the field. No backing away from that Those players have a brain and body just like the opponents they play. That O is lifeless.
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Ya gotta look deeper Bro.
You overlooked how much more obviously better equipped JMU was in terms of returning players where it counts than UH.
NO position group is more critical than that, in my view.
That’s also why Deion didn’t win in his first season.
Had we been returning four OLine starters from an 11 win team, it’d be a different story this year.
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They brought in 64 players we brought in 63. Lol just give it up man. You didn’t do the research on this one. It happens to everyone. Swallow your pride and move on.
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