Agree with your point but I believe he stuck around Tulane for the conference title game beat down by SMU. His OC that was coming here but never did, coached the bowl.
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We started with a rebuilt OLine from a 4 win team, and they started with a mostly returning 11 win OLine.
YOU didn’t do the research on THAT one Bro.
Research that would have revealed why this is an apples to oranges rebuild comparison.
Swallow your pride and go home on that one.
It happens to everyone.
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I never said any position group wasn’t a problem and didn’t have a direct corelation to our success. Im focused on addressing one point at a time, and in order.
You mentioning a position group is completely inconsequential. You stated they had a lot more returning than we did. I said the facts show otherwise.
DID YOU SAY THIS OR NOT? Yes or No.
It is consequential because that, in my view, is the toughest obstacle to overcome in any rebuild: lack of talent and returning experience in the trenches.
We have that obstacle in the extreme.
JMU didn’t.
And that’s why I don’t consider UH v JMU comparisons to be good ones.
Apples to oranges.
We didn’t return significant talent at ANY position group.
They returned MAJOR talent at the most critical one and the easiest one to rebuild around.
Not close.
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I think it’s the coaching (Barbay). Smith was not this bad last season.
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Lol you can’t admit you’re wrong and that’s fine. I just find it funny that you are so focused on trying to be right that you’ve failed to notice I agree with 90% of what you’re saying. The facts simply don’t agree with the rest of your post about them returning more. We literally had 63 incoming and they literally had 64. Just a fact.
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Nah, you were wrong. Just move on.
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Yes, but Smith wasn’t very good to begin with. Holgorsen and Co masked a lot of his shortcomings and many still showed up on the field last season.
Barbay definitely needs to figure things out fast. Dude is worse than Nesbitt at this point.
It’s also a fact that they had a great OLine returning that had produced 11 wins the previous season.
You will never convince me that this is a comparable rebuild in the face of that.
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Maybe on the number of newcomers, but you don’t honestly think this rebuild is comparable given what they returned up front versus us now, do you?
Their cupboard wasn’t anywhere near as bare as ours.
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I don’t care about position groups. I’ve been very vocal about my disdain for the OL coach, the OC and two of our OL-men.
Im…only…interested…in…this. DID YOU SAY THIS? YESSSSSSSSSSS OR NOOOOOOOOOO?
Yes.
Now then, do YOU acknowledge that you were apparently unaware of what they had coming back up front versus UH?
It’d be better if you did so, because then you’d realize that our situation is not very analogous to theirs, and not anywhere near as comparable a rebuild.
Apples to oranges Bro.
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Yeah and recruiting is going to be so easy with this garbage showing so far. Start pumping your money into the program because without a giant leap in NIL, recruiting is going to be a huge challenge.
It won’t be easy, but Fritz’ class thus far has a respectable rating according to the services.
Definitely need to hit the transfer portal for OLinemen and QBs.
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That’s fine Law. They can have 4 returning starters on the OL. That is a significant advantage. However, that doesn’t automatically
equate to success.
There are 9 million other ducks that have to get in a row for a G5 talented team who brought in 64 new players, including QB and first year head coach to be humming right out of the gate.
Is the biggest problem the O-Line? Do we have the ability to run?
That’s the biggest duck of all in my view.
Your offensive prospects are automatically going to be way better with those hogs returning up front.
Give us JMU’s returning OLine and we probably don’t get shut out back to back, and probably score enough to beat OU.
Way more rushing yardage if nothing else.
As I said, JMU rebuild vs UH rebuild this year really isn’t close when you look at that.
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I’m not taking either side here, but it is the best predictor to success.
Travelingcoog gets it right.
See by contrast, we completely LACKED the most critical predictor of success.
Apples to oranges.
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One of the biggest problems is the OL but there are ways to mask it. What’s funny is the zone blocking scheme is supposed to mask lack of strength up front by having guys just block in an area. But our OL coach can’t get them to understand their area in the least.
The OL is soft AND confused.
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