Our school was founded in 1927 not 1827. We are not a generational, land grant university. Stop frackn throwing around the their attendance figures. Its taken tu 136 yrs to get to 100k. Its taken us 90 yrs to get to 38k. If you remove the years without athletics, its even more stark and honest. Basically, we have achieved our attendance in half the time it has taken texas. One of our member statistics ppl can help if they like. THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO HOW QUICKLY WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THIS LEVEL OF SUCCESS. They know this. Its why the p5 moniker exists. Fight back. This argument is bogus.
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Not to mention the fact that we have less alumni to pull from for attendance than Texas. There is no apples to apples comparison.
Yup yup. This shite pisses me off. We let them control the narrative without ever challenging it. The FACTS are on our side. And, impressive.
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Agree 100%
Plus, we have only been playing intercollegiate sports since 1946 and we were a small private school until the 60âs. Throw in the fact that most of our history we were a mostly commuter school with a high number of part time night school students like I was. We donât have anything to be ashamed of.
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What did I miss?
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Attendance shaming is one thing, but Iâll tell you what I have REALLY had enough of:
Being lectured by some new coach, like Judas Herman, preaching to those of us who have been supporting this program for more than half a century, while he has no loyalty at all and is using the program only as a stepping stone for his own ambitions.
ENOUGH ALREADY!
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H*m%an is a cuss word in my dictionary.
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I am trying to figure out what I missed too.
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Not sure but Herman got results for 1 1/2 years until the Navy game this year.
Itâll be interesting if he has to call out the Texas fans for the Iowa State and preseason type games.
We grew a lot until the late '70s. Over the last 40 years, havenât we been pretty flat? Weâve doubled or tripled from the pre-Briles era.
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If you remove the intial cusa years. And, you should. 
We are on a fairly impressive growth curve. The point is we have only been playing traditional intercollegiate athletics since the 60s. We should not have 100k fans at every game. Nor, should we be expected to at this point. We are growing. And, growing impressively. As long as we keep winning, maintain the current standards as a minimum and push harder than ever, we will be expanding the stadium sooner rather than later. The standard is on the field. The amount in the stands always will follow the success of that standard. We are only 10k season tickets away from having to expand. If you told me that in 2001 i wouldve taken your bottle away.
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There was some tv discussion of uh being p5 ready. The announcers brought up attendance and stadium size as an example of âbig boyâ football. It pissed me off. The attendance argument the exact opposite of reality. Just needed to vent.
Iâve been chuckling at the â8 winâ threshold.
Its about the minimum a coach can do now to not get fired.
I call it the Sumlin Line.
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Definitely. Think it was aimed at Sumlin for his âmost consistent team in the stateâ comments a few weeks back.
Seems to me that most of the attendance threads come from people on these sites !!
You take ANY Big 12 team, put them on a CUSA or even AAC schedule then cut $30 MILLION from their budget (multiplied over 20 years) and you better believe their attendance will plummet. And the talking heads know this. They also know who signs their paychecks.
How many fans would drive to Lubbuck to watch Tech play East Carolina, even when Ruffin was there? They might - might, I say - but the bloom would fall off that rose pretty quick.
Thatâs another con. How many teams beat TWO Top 5 (and P5 as well) teams last year and destroyed the Heisman winner in the process. Another shill comment. Ready my rear end!
First, there has GOT to be honesty on the reporting of âattendanceâ vs.âtickets sold.â Many times last season, people commented âa crowd of 42,000 on hand,â when I say looking at a third deck that wasnât even close to half full. But you mention that the crowd was more like 32,000 and people got villified.
We need to be honest with ourselves. A Saturday game at noon in August and September will almost always leave seats empty. Some of our older fans just donât do heat like that so well anymore. Families with young kids donât come,to sweltering games because a miserable kid means a miserable parent. Trust me. I have listened to mine gripe because he was too hot.
But this season, letâs do a better job of estimating with honesty and not trying to shred some people because they report lower numbers than some folks want to see.
Why? Whatâs to be gained by making more accurate estimates? Weâre not setting a budget here.
How about just going to the games and enjoying them, rather than wasting your time trying to be right about the actual number of people in the seats? Thereâs truly no benefit to âwinningâ that discussion.
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