Folks need to chill out

This is going to be a rebuild. It was always going to be a rebuild. Folks thinking this wasn’t are either delusion or lost. It is going to be a few years before we are competitive. Talent will need to be recruited and developed. Schemes will have to be learned and implemented. Culture adopted. Habits accepted.

For reference in Kelvin’s first years over the hoops program the team went 13-19 (4-14 in conference play). That year they lost to Harvard, Arkansas Pine Bluff, South Carolina State, ECU, and Tulane. HOWEVER, at the same time we gave bloody noses to a few teams (see UConn, who won the natty that year).

We are going to have to be patient. I’m confident in Fritz getting this done, but he and his staff are going to need time, especially if we want it done the right way.

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How many years is an acceptable rebuild in 2024.

Keep in mind that the rosters expand by 20 ships in football next year.

I think by Year 2 with our favorable schedule 8-4 should be a realistic goal.

If youre talking about waiting 3-5 years then i hate to say it but coach Fritz imo would be a bust hiring.

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The acceptable starting point is always 3-4 before evaluation.

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I’m still fairly optimistic about this season.

UNLV was a wake up call, and the remaining 2 non-conference games should give enough time to get this roster where it needs to be for the conference schedule.

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I wonder was the percentage of CFB coaches in P4 who dont win in their first 2-3 years and then go on an compete for conference championships :thinking: :astonished:

Agree. You don’t hire an experienced coach and pay top dollar for that kind of timeframe. If you’re willing to give up on competitive football for 3+ years, just hire an inexperienced coach for less money and let him learn on the job.

If we’re struggling to break .500 in year three, adios.

And the absolute worst thing for trying to build our fanbase from the student section would be two years of boring offense and losing. They’ll never come back.

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Whatever the percentage is, both Fritz and Saban are in that demographic.

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Never said coach would be struggling to hit .500 by year 3 or 4.

Yeah, and then we’re stuck with insane buyouts that come at a cost to the entire athletics department.

Be realistic.

UH hired Fritz and are going to stick with him. I am still bullish on Fritz. When you factor everything going on with this program, it’s pretty clear why the outcome was the outcome.

We don’t even have a true depth chart yet. Fritz is still figuring out starters and leaders with a roster of 60+ new players (the most new players on a P4 team), and a inconsistent QB that was recruited by Dana.

Patience is key here.

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Coach Saban won 12 games second year in Alabama and won at least 6 games with bad talent in Michigan St off the bat lol.

Year 7 of the rebuild- we get it.

University of Houston = Rebuild U!

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I am. If you don’t want to pay big buyouts, hire better.

I’ve heard “be patient, it takes time” for at least 75% of the UH football seasons since I got started. That’s not patience - it’s accepting poor results.

The days of building programs over several years left with the transfer portal and player free agency. That model won’t work, and if a coach is stuck in that approach, the B12 is not the place for him.

I’m not saying that’s where Fritz is - just that if he is, then it ain’t gonna work out.

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Well that’s what Sampson did when he came to UH, but hey nobody is complaining about Sampson are they?

Half of the members of this message board didn’t even care about UH Athletics until 2015 (and I’m in this category by the way, but at least I’m aware of it)

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Dude…Sampson inherited a Basketball program that had facilities so bad they had rats running around the non working showers.

The crowd could be counted in the hundreds!

The UH P4 football program, in a decade old new stadium with TWO, not one major renovations since (Indoor facility and now the football operations building) has NOT been neglected…fr from it.

Stop comparing the two…the football program demise in self-inflicted, not resource inflicted, because WE had nobody in charge to reel in CDH after WE 1) hired him and 2) extended him.

Tilman ACTUALLY bragged the day we hired CDH …that we stole away a coach from the Power 5

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THIS

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We allowed CDH to REDSHIRT the entire first season, if not more, as part of a sustained Rebuilding Plan.

Rebuilding Plans do not work in College Football…you have to try to win every single game…any way you can.

Give me a recent example? Tulane? After the good schools left the AAC??

I’m going to say it again…UNLV was one of the easiest teams on our schedule and we got smoked.

They lost 5 games last season…they were not the 2016 Houston Cougars.

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UH wasn’t a Power conference when he rebuilt the basketball program, and Dana wasn’t hired when UH joined the Big 12.

Dana left a mess here, and his recruiting ability was piss poor.

Look at Willie’s recruiting efforts for the class of 2025 and beyond. It’s miles better than what Dana has done.

Willie had to plug holes in the roster for this season mainly from the portal. You can’t just land a bunch of transfers and expect immediate results.

New staff. New players. New culture. New conference = uncertainty.

As i’ve said multiple times already, Willie is using these first 3 games to rotate a bunch of players to see who stands out. The QB change during the UNLV game was going to happen regardless of the score.

It’s not like the NFL where Off-season and OTA’s are year-round.

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This is reasonable!

When the rebuild is completed we should be completing for conference titles.

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CDH was hired at the end of 2018.
The Big 12 announcement was in summer 2021.