Why wouldn’t everyone give 6 years of eligibility?
Unless you are absolutely sure you are NFL material, why wouldn’t you go JUCO to get 6 years.
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Maybe because a D1 school can get you more NIL money at age 18 than a JUCO?
Remember the time value of money and the importance of beginning investments while one is still young.
In football you are probably right when you are one knee injury away from driving for Amazon.
I have been in favor of 6 years to finish degrees for athletes for a long time. With the commitment athletes make to their sport, the travel, wights, meetings etc .its a big deal. JUCO will be a tremendous help to kids that are academically behind.
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I totally agree with you but do you think this has ANYTHING to do with academics and academic progress anymore?
This is about money.
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Art Briles came by my high school football team to recruit and he felt so bad about our facilities that he took old red UH practice jerseys and gave them to us to use for QBs.
When I look at the athletic facilities in Katy ISD, I’m truly in awe.
Most NCAA D3 programs, many D2 programs, and even some I-FCS programs have football stadiums, basketball arenas, and baseball fields that aren’t as good.
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I think I buy the argument our BYU friends tend to make here: if the mission trip is such an advantage, why isn’t everyone doing it? There’s nothing stopping Bama or USC or Texas from doing exactly what BYU does. Why don’t they?
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In the case of USC, it’s their non-sectarianism, and in the case of Bama and Texas, it’s probably the whole separation of church and state thing, given that those are STATE universities.
Apples to oranges.
They could still send players anywhere but the school to go lift for two years and use zero eligibility.
But would the players be cool with it?
At BYU, a lot of recruits are LDS and would be willing; many would view it as a religious obligation.
I’m guessing that at the schools you mentioned…recruits lack the same convictions as a general rule, and are mostly looking for NIL and the fastest playing time/quickest route to the NFL possible. What you described might get in the way at those schools…but it’d be expected of many recruits at a place like BYU.
Of course, BYU takes advantage of that. There’s a reason why, even though you rarely see BYU football recruiting classes ranked at or near the top, it was no secret that, back in the WAC glory days, their players always seemed physically larger and more mature than their conference mates.
That was a contributing factor.
By the by Utah QB Cam Rising has attended College for 8 years and has requested a 9th year following his latest injury.
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Nobody here cares about the Mormons that knocked on doors in your “Mom’s Very posh neighborhood “ and nobody cares about you continuing to SPAM the board with your asinine posts against Mormons from BYU.
You sound ridiculous and you seem to be the only one that doesn’t notice.
Who’s making posts “against” Mormons from BYU?
Not I!
I’m simply stating a fact.
When combined with this JUCO two bonus years, BYU, to an extent that no other school can, will now be able to offer, in effect, up to FIVE “redshirt” years: two years of JUCO, one year of traditional redshirting, and two years of mission time.
They could have a host of 23 year old freshmen that have benefitted from FIVE years of physical development and weight training, as opposed to freshmen at most P4 schools, which will only benefit from 1-3 such years at the most.
How is that “asinine?” It isn’t. It’s simply TRUTH, and the truth is never asinine.
How is it “against” Mormons or BYU? Again, it isn’t. It’s simply a statement of fact that will give them a competitive advantage that most schools won’t have, or at least, not to nearly the same extent.
Personally, I like BYU being in our conference. Glad to have them. A strong BYU means a stronger Big 12. This advantage is a great thing for them, and the conference. How is that “against Mormons?” Hint: It’s NOT, and it’s ridiculous for you to imagine that what I said is.
Please try to avoid either misinterpreting or misunderstanding what I posted, with all due respect.
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This had NOTHING to do with BYU!
You decided to immediately bring up BYU and what a huge advantage it is for them….
You did that, no one else……then when the fact that they go on religious missions was brought up….YOU dismissed this very important aspect of their religion as “well, they go to my mom’s Very posh neighborhood “….
For someone that is all about “the LAW”, you sure don’t mind disrespecting their First Amendment rights as some sort of gimmick that only serves the purpose of getting their athletes bigger and stronger.
And don’t even conjure up one of your famous word salads to act as though that’s not what you meant.
You flat out belittled a hugely important aspect that young men partake in to show a commitment to their faith.
I’m not going to reply to your nonsense anymore….so go ahead and jibber jabber all you want to try and justify it….and if that doesn’t work then just deny it over and over.
First of all, no one is disrespecting the first amendment here. Not sure where you got that from.
Of course, as a private, religiously affiliated school, it is expected that students could have religious requirements or expectations that don’t exist elsewhere, and of course I respect that BYU can have them.
I also respect everyone’s right to the free exercise of their religion. My posts weren’t a comment on the LDS faith at all, and nowhere did I indicate a lack of respect for either the LDS faith, LDS missionaries, or the first amendment more generally. Again, a lack of understanding or inability to understand on your part does not constitute “asininity” on my part.
As for this not having anything to do with BYU or LDS…hey listen. This is about eligibility, fundamentally.
In the past, JUCOs cost students eligibility. Now, it is possible that they will not.
Whether that’s a good thing or not is up for debate, but it helps programs that have been known to take JUCOs, including our own.
By analogy, I brought up BYU to point out how they can take advantage, not only of this ruling, but could even combine it with the whole missionary thing to prolong eligibility even further, creating an even stronger competitive advantage that most schools will not have.
That’s hardly a bad thing in my mind. I want BYU to be as strong as possible so that the Big 12 is as strong as possible.
I’m sorry if for any reason you weren’t capable of understanding that, and in some way, shape, or form, misread/misinterpreted my posts in a manner that is nowhere close to my meaning or intent.
And with all due respect, as I believe I’ve said in the past, this is an open posting forum, and everyone is allowed to post whatever they like within the posting guidelines. You don’t have ANY business telling me, or anyone else, the manner in means we should post on ANY string, given that a) you aren’t a moderator, and b) nothing I posted violated any guidelines.
We’ll see if you mean what you say…the good money says you’ll respond to this post and in doing so, illustrate/prove that you care a great deal more about what I have to say than you contend.
For some reason Funk was under the impression that most of those LDS football missionaries were working under third world conditions and wouldn’t be able to use that time to physically mature and get bigger and stronger. I of course had to DISPEL that MISconception on his part. Those LDS missionaries often work stateside and in first world countries, and in nice neighborhoods. It is NOT necessarily, nor even usually, “hardship” duty, as I said. There are plenty of opportunities for those BYU football LDS missionaries to work right here in the USA, in affluent neighborhoods, and work out hard in health clubs after work. Anyone who thinks otherwise seriously needs to get a clue. As I said, my Mom’s neighborhood is very nice and I’ve seen plenty of LDS missionaries walking door to door there. I’m guessing most of those BYU LDS football missionaries are doing something similar, and I don’t think that belief is unreasonable.
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Not responding to anything above:
Seems reasonable that
Next series of lawsuit sets up 6 years of eligibility for everyone. (all levels of NCAA FB)
Tough argument JUCOs get 6 years and the rest just 4 (Not counting redshirts)
-Add medical redshirts.
-Add the normal redshirt year.
NCAA will just lose that lawsuit also
-Add an ineligible year for ___# of portal transfers .
3d TP trip seems fair & does not count toward eligibility.
NCAA will just lose that lawsuit also
Those 6 years will become 8 + years.
Understood its a different product but
UH all in = I’m all in.
Saturday is my day 2 binge football. My whole family loves it.
14 + hours if possible.
Can’t get into grinding NFL w work Monday & its a good day for a long walk.
Some see MWC / new PAC and go Yuck.
Not me. They are set up till 3am.
How else they getting any TV $$$ w mostly CFB Whistle Stops?
Hear Hear …love it
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Of course UT doesn’t agree with the new JUCO rules. Sarkisian will have a lot of 5 and high 4 stars that will go pro after 3 years, while schools like UH and Tech could have experienced 6, 7 and 8 year players.
I think this is adding to the parity of college football similar to college basketball.
If UT doesn’t like it, it must be good for everyone else.
I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE RULING!!!
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Again, this helps schools like UH more than UT.
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