Court Rules JUCO Players Can Retain All 4 Years Eligibility

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For a good while Cy-Fair had a better stadium and facilities than UH.

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And it won’t be long until college sports will be professional sports. 
 Wait! It’s already happened.

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That’s a good and just ruling.

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I remember when the Berry Center was first built, people were talking how absurd Texas high school football had gotten.

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I respect your opinion but, you’ve been overruled by a higher power.

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Please clear up this matter for me.

Hypothetically, a player can
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Play 2 years of JUCO ball, then be eligible to
play 4 years of D1 ball.

That’s 6 years of athletic eligibility.

Question


will they also be afforded one year of red shirt and another year for medical waiver?

If so, it means a player could possibly spend 8 years participating in college athletics.

Please clarify because if a student invested eight continuous years in their education, they could be on track for a Ph.D.

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And let’s apply that to the BYU scenario.

Two years of JUCO (no loss of eligibility). Enter at age 18, leaves at age 20.

Goes to BYU. Gets a redshirt year, then does a two year religious mission. At this point he is age 23.

Still has four years eligibility when he gets back. Ages 23 and on he plays for BYU.

EIGHT or NINE years to play four.

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Did a Morman steal your girl?

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It can be a twenty year religious redshirt. Knocking on doors and eating poor food are not ideal prep for div 1 football. If you think most missionaries are hanging out in the gym you should talk to my friends who missioned in Liberia and Sierra Leone.

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Nope.

But I’m just saying.

Under this ruling, a player could, in theory, have effectively up to four or five “redshirt” years.

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Maybe if they go to a country like that.

But I’ve seen LDS missionaries knocking on doors in my Mom’s very upper middle class neighborhood in Katy.

At the end of the day, there’s nothing stopping them from going to the gym and hitting the weights and drinking protein shakes once their daily door knocking is done.

According to THIS
BYU had NINETEEN such returning missionaries on their 2024 team.

That’s a redshirt program that most schools don’t get. And judging by the heights/weights of their returnees
to be quite frank
it doesn’t look like they were missing many meals.

2023 returned missionaries

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Joe Brown OL 6’4" 285 Freshman [30]
Viliami Po’uha DL 6’3" 260 Freshman [31]
Nathan Hoke LB 6’3" 225 Freshman [32]
Dallin Havea LB 6’2" 230 Freshman [33]
Sione Hingano OL 6’5" 285 Freshman [34]
Noah Moeaki TE 6’3" 225 Freshman [35]
Cody Hagen WR 6’1" 180 Freshman [36]
Jarinn Kalama DB 6’3" 200 Freshman [37]
Dominique McKenzie WR 6’0" 165 Freshman [38]
Jovesa Damuni RB 6’0" 180 Freshman [39]
Sione I Moa RB 5’10" 220 Freshman [40]
Will Zundel TE 6’5" 235 Freshman [41]
Payton VanSteenkiste DB 5’11" 200 Freshman [42]
Orion Maile-Kaufusi DL 6’3" 235 Freshman [43]
Weston Covey WR 5’11" 185 Freshman [44]
Trevor Pay OL 6’3" 285 Freshman [45]
Carson Tujague DL 6’3" 235 Freshman [46]
Rowan Reay WR 6’4" 188 Freshman [47]
Charles Miska RB 5’11" 200 Freshman [48]
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My thirteen year old does that. Drinking protein shakes and lifting a weight set from Dicks Sporting Goods doesn’t prepare you for football. Football is about the ability to resist and defy the pain impulse.

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Uh, yeah.

Hey listen. That’s two years of growth and physical development that most players at most schools don’t/won’t get.

And in a sport where size and strength are EXTREMELY important, that DOES matter.

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What a rationalization. If lifting weights for two years in your garage prepared you for Div 1 football I’d be a cornerback for Notre Dame.

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Dude.

You know good and well that these recruits have D1 talent, and they sure as Hell aren’t working around with Dicks sporting good weights in a garage.

But unlike most similar recruits with that talent level at most other schools
they get two years to physically develop and mature that the same recruits elsewhere DON’T get.

You’d be a fool to think that that doesn’t make ANY difference at all.

That’s a part of what redshirting is all about, after all. Growing and physically developing/maturing.

Again, looking at the heights and weights of those missionary returnees, do you truly believe that they were eating “poor” food and not working out/staying in shape/physically maturing and developing? Come on now.

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As the judge and jury of this discussion I’ve reviewed your inane position in the prosecution. Your position lacks merit, is frivolous, and is supported by weak evidence.

I’m dismissing your charges as I consider them a waste of the court’s time.
And please don’t submit documents written in crayon.

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If the evidence is so weak, then why has these been a matter discussed all over college football “talking heads - o - sphere” for many years now?

Just look at those 19 missionary returnees.

Two Juco years
a redshirt year
two missionary years
that’s FIVE YEARS to hit the weights and bulk up/mature/physically develop before arriving as a 23 year old freshman as opposed to an 18 year old freshman. And you truly believe that that would make no difference whatsoever?

Really?

Come on now.

Again, it’d be silly to dismiss such a thing as you did. DON’T be silly.

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I’ve seen several BYU football players serve missions in Oklahoma, various other states, Japan, France and other European countries. Lets not pretend most of them are going to an African village or the jungles of South America.

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As I said, I’ve seen them knocking on doors in my Mom’s VERY posh neighborhood in Katy.

Wasn’t exactly hardship duty.

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absent a collective-bargaining agreement, what right do universities have to arbitrarily restrict an athletes earning ability to 4 years

is this where we are now?