Big 12 / SEC / B10 Expansion Thread (Part 2)

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Too funny not to post

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It’s not a matter of not wanting to go to 16. It’s a matter of paying the schools. Colorado and any other school will be paid from OU and UT exit fees for the 2024 season.

The prorata clause(31.6million) kicks in the 2025 season . So there is a 1 year lag, that makes going to 16 next season impossible.

The big12 practically can only add 1 more school for 2024 season.

Pretty sure that the “we’re only adding 1 more” is to entice one of the 3 to make a move.

If Arizona jumps, then it’s only inevitable that UW/UO are going to want out and the B12 will take them. That said, Utah and ASU are probably sweating their tails off right now, and I wouldn’t be surprised if ASU tries to stop Arizona via litigation

Utah, Cal, Stanford, Wazzu, Oregon State, and ASU are kinda screwed here.

We have the Utah-market and more with BYU.

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Right now the PAC schools are playing a giant game of Prisoner’s Dilemma .

The BIg 12 has X# of spots open…which PAC schools are all vying, behind the back of others, for those X# of spots before there are no spots left.

Who will give in second now that Colorado TOOK their spot and SECURED their future or risk being ina conference with the likes of Boise, UNLV and Colorado State

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Idk about now. But UNLV and San Diego seem like good adds. I always liked the ability to travel to a city over a college town. And UNLV has money.

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I think the statsical likelihood is that prisoners will defect in a prisoners dilemma. Costs outweigh the benefits. Let’s sit back and wait. Yormark has ratcheted up pressure with “for 2024”, “UConn who just won the bball natty”, and “1-3 teams” talk. I would be shocked if we don’t get at least one more because I see no way the media deal is what it needs to be to put the better schools in the PAC at ease. I guess they could do some really crazy revenue sharing thing to keep them but that’s about it. I think the probability of cooperation is like 35% among two parties. What about the 5 or so we would accept as conference mates? Much lower…

I agree

Big 12 should be gunning for UNLV and SDSU

We should also be targeting U of Phoenix and PurdueGlobal

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Wow, what a surprise! Oregon may go to the B12 but would really rather go to the B1G; who would have ever thought that – except everyone.

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“It’s not a matter of not wanting to go to 16. It’s a matter of paying the schools. Colorado and any other school will be paid from OU and UT exit fees for the 2024 season.

The prorata clause(31.6million) kicks in the 2025 season . So there is a 1 year lag, that makes going to 16 next season impossible.

The big12 practically can only add 1 more school for 2024 season.”

4 new schools are only getting 40% shares next year. That gets to full shares for 2 more.
#GoCoogs!

Sounds like when Yormark jumped ahead of the PAC12 in media negotiations.

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Nothing is impossible.

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This year and next year

  • UH, Cincinnati, BYU and UCF, will be paid from shares of current legacy 8 schools. The legacy 8 will take a hit.

2024 ( next year)

  • Colorado and say Arizona ( example), will get paid from OU and UT exit fees ( 80 million). That’s full shares for both.

2025:

  • All schools receive full equal shares.

The big12 can only afford to add 1 more P5 school for 2024.

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My understanding was that the B12 can add 4 and still get the pro rata

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Correct, the pro rata (31.6 million) is for the new contract that starts 2025, not the current contract. That’s my understanding.

Really??
As in there’s not enough rumor mongering?

Contract states Pro-rata kicks in whenever they join. But ESPN is on the hook for 63 or 67% of it. So they wouldn’t even cover all of it. Fox is getting a deal with that. I think when we sell the basketball rights that would be amazing so if anyone is to join it should be Oregon or Arizona.

Then next year worry about the rest.

Never enough rumor mongering during these times.

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You tell the other PAC schools, “You missed your chance, no full share for you until 2025.” You get a partial share like the other new members, except for CU."

My take is we need make each of our remaining expansion slots selections count. They need to be way better than Colorado.

We already have the best basketball conference in the country. I think there are a lot of ifs & buts to be figured out before going separate basketball media contract. No matter how good a basketball media contract may be, football money will still decide when a university moves to a different conference. We moved to the Big12 for the football money.

Under the new CFP the Big12 will already have a spot in the 12 team playoff.

IMHO The only PAC teams that could possibly give us a higher CFP seeding or maybe 2 seeds in the new format are Oregon, Washington, and maybe Utah. Teams like these are the direction we need to be going with.

Do we want to use our remaining openings for:
• teams like Oregon that will help with our next round of contracts.
• a maybe one year “ha, ha we took the PAC down” only to have more dead P5 weight to carry.
• bring in G5s that may move the needle some day.

I’m 71 years old. In 7 to 10 years, I hope I have more to celebrate in UH footbal than the year we almost or did wipe out the PAC