VP what if question

How different would things be if the person with second most votes became Vice President?

I think in cases where the VP isn’t the same party as the President, the VP would be on an island like “Mr. or Mrs. Irrelevant” with only the Constitutional duties for them to do.

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Yeah but how much fun would that tie break in the Senate be?

But seriously that would be like the greatest of all political gigs that’s legit just a kick back and enjoy a free ride scenario.

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I should have paid more attention while watching Hamilton, but did the VP ever have power? They were directly elected in the beginning.

I believe their constitutional duties are unchanged.

Depends on the Senate.

Kamala Harris cast a record 33 tie breaking votes.

That’s power!

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I saw a mention of that before in a post online that was treating it as if she took some unprecedented power rather than the Senate was deadlocked 33 times.

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There are some other VPs that have come close.

As I said, how much power the VP has really depends on how the Senate is composed.

A VP that just happens to preside over a Senate that’s very evenly split will end up having A LOT of power to affect national policy via their tiebreaker vote.

One that doesn’t…may barely have a role.

Query: is it possible that Harris has already been running the show, given Biden’s diminshing capacity?

I mean, this has to have been going on for awhile, and it seems obvious that Biden’s aides, cabinet, handlers, and perhaps Harris may well have all been running the show in order to cover for him, eh?

If so, then that’s “power” as well, right?

Yes that was my point. If the Senate isn’t evenly split on an issue, the VP wouldn’t be able to cast a tie breaker.

The other big deal is transfer of power. Its happened several times.
What was the original logic for switching to running as a ticket vs as an individual?

I think whoever comes in last in the party primary should be VP.

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If there’s one thing I hate…

It’s power hungry people… especially, when they get in power.

I guess Pence should be Trump’s VP this year instead of JV Dance who never saw a presidential primary before. Definitely not Nikki as she was getting votes. I’d didn’t keep up, was it Vivek or Pence who came in last in the GOP primaries?

I don’t think she was running anything. If anyone besides Biden was, it would be his top advisors. I think Richard (I couldn’t type his real name due to filters!) Cheney was the last president to have real input in running things, and that was more of a hand of the king kind of way.

So she either did help run things, which is what the Trump campaign is trying to say, or she did what normal VPs do, and did all the ceremonial stuff, in addition to the tie breaking in the Senate.

Obama. Most powerful democrat.

Michelle is stronger, she’s been putting everyone in headlocks and getting her way for years.

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Conspiracy, most powerful opiate ever.

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The Obamas are another group that controls the weather

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No, no it’s not. Obama and Pelosi colluded to force biden out. Poor Joe, little did he know his own party would force him out. I know Jill must have been fuming

It’s a conspiracy that Obama is running the country.

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