Actually they couldn’t make it without sports bigtime bc neither are Harvard or Tulane , etc in being highly selective bc both would have to drop enrollment significantly which is why Yale , Harvard, Tulane have smaller enrollment. A&M gets a lot of blinn college transfers etc which many aren’t that great of students. I know many UT grads who went to north Harris then transferred. Harvard and Tulane mostly accept only freshmen and it’s way tougher to get in as a freshman.
Ask Khator why big time athletics really helps which is why she did what she did here .
Your missing the point on highly selective private schools vs public universities with higher enrollment accepting lesser students.
So if UT drop athletics, kids would go to Bama etc bc the sports but Harvard and Tulane would be okay.
So again ask a UT grad if they would drop athletics and would that girl or guy really care to go there but a guy or girl would still go to Harvard, Yale , rice or Tulane on academics alone.
Your wife benefitted bc UT has athletics big time which helps the reputation and “popularity” of the school. Her not attending sports game their doesn’t matter bc she benefitted on the rep. My boss at work had a son who could have gone anywhere but choose A&M bc he specifically said he wanted to go a good school with big time athletics. A neighbor had a grandson that couldn’t get into UT or A&M but then wanted to go to Bama bc of the big time sports rep.
Whether kids admit it or not or attend the sports teams , they benefit off the rep of big time sports that in turn makes the school popular. Lsu would be nothing without bigtime sports.
So ask your wife if UT dropped all sports would she be ok with it. Answer would be no bc of what I’m saying.
She wasn’t my wife, just dated. And, yes, she’d be ok with UT dropping sports because MCcombs got her where she is now and she had nothing to do with athletics. Top consulting and engineering firms are hiring from UT because their programs are top notch, not because of UT’s football team.
Does athletics bring recognition to a school from the general public, yes.
But top hiring firms may use athletics as a talking point but go on the reputation of the school for hiring.
Does athletics bring in more applications when athletics teams are doing well? Yes. But I argue that the lower acceptance rate that results from the increased applications simply means that more unqualified applicants submitted those applications because of the athletics advertising. Money that could be better spent offering scholarships to to cream of the crop that the UT’s of the world currently get. That’s how Georgia tech got my son, by making it less expensive than even going to UT.
I’m not talking about the hiring process bc many schools are great that aren’t well known but more on why kids choose schools bc of the popularity of schools which is based on big time athletics making them well known if the school isn’t a Tulane, rice, Harvard etc that gets students based on academics alone. Boise isn’t big time bc they aren’t in a p4. If Boise was in a p4 it would help them.
Why does Bama, Lsu ,UH etc care about athletics big time? It’s bc like Khator said, it’s the front porch to making the school well known. Lsu would be like u La La if not in the sec then less kids would go there.
Our applications went to 38000 once we were big12 for ex. UH is gaining popularity bc of big12 which helps getting kids to what to go here.
It’s understandable that a BYU fan wouldn’t have too much knowledge of Lamar University, but having grown up in SE Texas I can fill you in. Now you have to be as old as me to remember these years, but here goes:
-Lamar has made six appearances in the NCAA tournament
-In 1979 with Billy Tubbs as the head coach, Lamar reached the NCAA tourney for the 1st time, defeating Detroit before losing in the 2nd round to Magic Johnson and the eventual national champions Michigan State
-In 1980 the Cardinals had their finest season, reaching the Sweet 16 as a 10 seed, beating 7 seed Weber State and 2 seed Oregon State before losing a big lead and falling to Clemson.
-During the Billy Tubbs and Pat Foster years Lamar had a 80-game home court winning streak, which is the 7th longest in NCAA history.
The Lamar vs. Houston history features a fascinating game played in Beaumont during the 1968-69 season (I remember listening to this game on the radio).
Lamar, coming off a 8-17 season, was hosting the Cougars, coming off a Final Four appearance at the intimate confines of McDonald Gym in Beaumont. Lamar trailed 56-44, but rallied to force overtime, and then prevailed 71-65 in OT for what was probably the biggest home win in the history of the program.
not really, UH fans can be fickle. When UH had the run and shoot and were blowing out most teams, the Astrodome still had about 19,000 fans. That is why all the attendance threads. When aggie fans blindly give massive amounts when their team is not very good, it shows the cult of giving is larger than winning.
At this point, the consistent support of athletics will start inhibiting the growth of other units,” Ortega said. “By cutting Athletics support, SFAC can allocate additional funding to Counseling and Psychological Services, the Center for Student Advocacy and Community and other student-focused units
They do know they are about to get a a decent financial push from the state via TUF that can not go to sports, right?
Except that unlike the PUF, which can be used in any way that UT and aTm see fit, the TUF funds are required to be used for research functions, and nothing else.
Pez needs to stop the increase in tic prices but simply price to fill all stands. Don’t know why he doesn’t get that
And yes the student association doing this will be gone in few yrs not understanding athletics is important as to why UH is on the map. It’s our communist section of UH that hates athletics lol
People choose UT for all sorts of reasons and a lot of it has to do with your class.
For certain upper class kids, they’re groomed their entire lives for UT. Prep schools and summer camps to meet your future Greek family members. Roundup parties starting junior year if you’re extra wanted. Senior year Red River and Aggy games. Girls to the Big3 (PiPhi, Kappa, Theta which would NEVER have chapters at UH). Boys to SAE or Fiji. Debutant balls. Hardin House private dorm.
Old money marriages being arranged around Longhorn identity.
That seemed to be the UT formula at St. John’s School.
Especially for River Oaks kids. Pi Phi Sorority for girls and FIJI fraternity for boys.
Girls Cotillion Club Deubtant ball for River Oaks girls at the River Oaks Country Club; of course, those girls were going not just to UT but elsewhere as well.
