The question I have for the “super league” is does it cover all sports or just football?
Take Kansas as an example. Football, perirenal doormat in football. Basketball is another thing altogether…
Do we have super leagues for football and basketball? Each one separate?
At the end of the day, athletic departments are run by university presidents, not athletic directors. I don’t think the athletic departments are going anywhere.
final cut of what?
If the 2 x 24 does happen and the B1G wants a Texas school, Baylor will not be vetted.
neither will UH.
Big 10 needs a Texas school as much as the SEC needs California, Chicago or NYC.
not so sure about that…we have distinct advantages over Texas Tech and TCU, especially if Fritz has us winning the Big 12 sooner than later.
We are the big public school in a large market
Funny…because you could have said the same thing about the B1G TEN needing a northeast school or a California school then they added Rutgers/Maryland and USC/UCLA and followed that up with adding Washington and Oregon.
100%…the state of Texas is definitely on their wish list!
They probably tried very hard to lure UT but they ultimately selected the SEC
I know you keep saying that and i wish it were true. I thought everyone has come to the conclusion that markets don’t matter per se - schools affiliations and brands do. Unfortunately it’s just so hard to see. I’m happy in the Big 12 and just can’t see the B1G happening. For instance, USF just got AAU and is in a big market, but it’s a “so what” you know?
Now if UH ever got the BRAND identity of a Miami, which while down has been relevant for decades, then it might be possible. But there’s no brand here. Just a bunch of lifers who love the program.
Maybe they can call the super league the XFL (Xcellent Football League) or USFL (United States Football League). Those seem like great names for a minor league football league.
If the Big Ten adds anyone outside of their current footprint (i.e. the south), then it will likely be a strategic add.
UH (assumingly AAU by this point) would not be added to the Big Ten for its brand. It would be added so that more Big Ten schools can imprint themselves in the south. Houston is a top 3 football market, and placing more Big Ten brands in this region would net them more viewership overall, because the only schools that get consistent viewership in the south is Ohio State and Michigan, and then whichever other 1 or 2 teams is having a good season such as Oregon.
That being said, Texas or Texas A&M would be the clear winners for a Big Ten invite, but there’s really no evidence showing either of them would leave the SEC nor would it make any sense. Both are situated perfectly in the SEC in almost every aspect, and the Big Ten travel alone would be a nightmare. UH, on the other hand, would take the invite regardless of the travel burden because that’s just where UH is at in this particular moment.
Baylor and TCU aren’t large enough brands in terms of scale. They would perhaps fit as founding members, but late invitations to the Big Ten would have to be large public schools with big student populations and alumni bases. This also applies to Miami. Great brand. Great academics. Too small of a school.
That essentially leaves 3 or 4 schools with any invite potential.
The question Big Ten has to ask themselves is if they will be willing to travel all the way down to Florida, or would they rather travel to Texas.
Where do you get this number? For college football? Several years ago someone posted actual market ratings for college football and Houston was not in the top 10.
In pure viewership, Houston probably falls outside the top 10 because it’s mostly a professional sports town
But in the aggregate - it’s easily a top 3 in terms of TV viewership, high school recruiting, and large alumni presence from schools all over the south
How can it be outside the top 10 in viewership but in the aggregate be top 3?
What is the definition of aggregate?
TV viewership
Aggregate: TV Viewership, recruiting, alumni bases
Tuscaloosa probably has higher viewership than Houston from the Crimson Tide alone (including t-shirt fans), but there are far more recruits out of Houston than Tuscaloosa. There’s also going to be more alums from all over the country in Houston. You won’t find LSU alums or Texas alums living in Tuscaloosa
I’m not sure i understand. Bama vs Ohio State will guarantee at least 10m+ of viewers - and they are in not “top TV markets”. Houston vs RIce would probably draw 200k in a top TV market. Just trying to understand the relevance. And if you’re saying that Houston (the city) tunes into other games as a part of the market - no offense, but why does that matter?
Baylor, TCU, and TT will never be AAU. It’s just a matter of time for UH.
Especially,as we continue to grow, we become more of a UT version 2.0 but in Houston instead of Austin.
That will be appealing to the B1G Ten.
Our athletic past is still part of our resume and once we have the academic reputation we will be a destination University!
This is yet another thread that has most everyone citing their pipe dream reasons why UH will survive what is in reality happening (So much so that Baylor and others are reaching out to9 meet with the SEC/B1G P2 to try and see if they can somehow mitigate the damage.
I started a post awhile back titled: “If P2 Becomes a Fact without Big12 ACC”
If P2 Becomes a Fact without Big12 ACC
The idea was to get the forum to see if there is a plan where the Big12 and ACC and some G5 teams could create their own P2 Ver2 that would bring in the same dollars as we currently have under their current TV contracts.
What would it look like? I personally would be very pleased to play a football season with nothing but Big12 and ACC teams I’m already liking the Big12 football schedule we have this year.
Don’t see how this is a question. B1G schools seem to have no trouble traveling to the west coast now. You had Buckeye travel to Oregon a couple weeks ago. Same with PSU @ USC. Rutgers @ USC.
At this point I welcome the split. Its like a stacked 6A Duncanville vs a very good 5A Aledo. Aledo may eventually get a W but they are not on even playing fields. Let them break off and lets create another division. Getting a National title and having an even field for all will still mean something.
In my opinion, if the split happens those “P2” teams can schedule all they want against each other (B10 vs SEC) ala NFL style. But buyer beware, just like the NFL there are only so many wins and losses to go around. Historically great teams can sink fast with that model.
I don’t think it means a super league. The meeting could be about nil, pay for play etc bc so many new variables have popped up lately.
The coach said what any coach would say and he doesn’t know what will happen and when contracts expire of course realignment can happen.
Nothing about all this points to a super league. Again the sec and big12 already are getting what they want and they don’t want lawsuits which will happen in a breakaway.
The p4 will exist or p3 but 2 will simply get more money and playoff spots which is all they want. They don’t really want a breakaway alienating 1000s of fans and national backlash.
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