Navy or Western Michigan in Cotton?

I think they said bowl selection is this Sunday? What happens if Navy looses on the 10th against Army? Who would go to the Cotton Bowl?

Assuming they beat Temple

Western Michigan should go regardless. I don’t think there’s any justification for excluding an undefeated G5 team for a team with 2 losses. Frankly, WMU not being in the playoff discussion is a screwjob.

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If Navy blows out Temple, it will be interesting to see what happens. Western Michigan didn’t look that good against Ohio. There is a serious drop off in talent between the conferences. That said two losses is tough to put over an undeafeated team. If Navy only had one loss, it would be clear cut to me they deserve it more.

The following are the Massey ratings of WMU’s opponent. You put them in, and you set an awful precedent that 13-0 vs. absolute, utter trash is > 11-2 against a quality AAC schedule.

If that’s the way it’s going to be, I recommend that we leave the AAC and join the Sun Belt. Why beat up/get beat up on by Navy, Tulsa, Memphis, Temple, USF, UCF, etc., when we can just go 13-0 against trash and get in? We’re in a horrible spot if we both aren’t accepted by the P5 and don’t get any credit whatsoever for being far and away the best G5.

41
258
102
121
103
100
131
98
143
160
197
48
92

That is good info and I agree somewhat, but that same rating has Western Michigan at #13 and Navy at #29 (the gap will tighten a little since Ohio is #83 and Temple is #37). Two losses is just tough. Still hope Navy gets it if they win convincingly tomorrow though.

The 0 in the L column causes the model to vastly overvalue WMU. If you think WMU is the 13th best team in the country, I’ve got some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.

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Just showing there are some flaws to their ratings. I’ve never been impressed with Western Michigan, they have one good win all season.

barely beat The Ohio u Bobcats…we need Navy to hammer Temple and Army and jump them…Cotton would love Navy, wants no part, rightfully…of WMU…

Yep. 11 of 12 teams in the AAC had a stronger SOS than Western Michigan. They really shouldn’t be included.

Which puts the Playoff committee in a tough spot: include the undefeated team from a much lesser conference or take the probably much better team that has 2 losses? Either way, there’s controversy.

I think I saw a 12 team playoff idea that would solve these types of arguments as every conference champ would get in along with 2 at-large. Top 4 teams get a bye in the first round. Of course, that may end up causing a major shift in realignment as, let’s say, why would the Aggies want to be in the SEC and be mid-tier when they could shift to the Sun Belt and get an easy spot in the playoffs.

The 30-40 million a year the SEC brings?

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That is why the entire CFP/Committee is a joke.
Lou Holtz said it yesterday. It should either be an eight or a 16 Teams format. WMU should/will go to the Cotton Bolw. Even though WMU plays against weaker Teams than us they still won fair and square.
In case they do not go then why are they even playing Div I Football?

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Every FBS team should be folded into 8, 16 team conferences. Champs go to playoffs.

Don’t like that at all. I am in favor an 8 team with the top 6 ranked conference champs getting in (also previously said any undefeated should get in). I think the push for 8 teams will be increased since so many conference championship games are meaningless this year for the playoff.

Now Temple will look back at that Army loss to start the year and realize it might have cost them the Cotton Bowl. They have been underrated all year, really played Penn St tough.

Temple has been 11-0 against the spread since that Army loss. Demolishing Navy so far today. Winning conference games was more important for UH than beating OU and UofL.

Yes, but winning against OU and UofL was better for a certain someone’s resume. :wink:

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