Matt Rhule failed in the NFL, but now college football has one of its coaching stars back in the mix

No, it would not be cool to bring in a coach that wins some and leaves after a year or two. That is not a recipe for success. Look at Oklahoma right now. Their Head Coach left them for bigger and better and took with him multiple of their best players including their star quarterback.

The instant transfer eligibility rule and NIL has changed the game. There is no telling who Herman may have been able to lure off of our roster when he took the job at UT had the instant transfer eligibility rule been in effect back then. Hell, he still was able to dismantle our recruiting class that year by flipping numerous of our commits to come play for him at UT instead.

Coaches move jobs and that’s part of the business side of college football but to be ok with hiring someone who has his eyes set on another job is unwise in my opinion.

People need to quit looking for someone to stay here the bluest of the blue bloods ND, OU lost there coaches to other programs get the best you can get, expect them to be gone in about 3 yrs or more just have a reasonable buy out, so to hire the next one, if they leave it means they had massive success here

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The best unemployed coach out there is Herman.

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Yeah, you’d think we’d have learned our lesson watching that guy who bailed on LSU for the NFL wash out at Alabama.

Lol do you realize that Oklahoma is 0-3 in the BIG12 right now and is in a tailspin after just being embarrassed by UT? They already want their new coach gone. Notre Dame is 3-2 and embarrassed themselves against Marshall this year. Both teams are feeing the effects of losing their head coaches. As I mentioned, coaches come and go, it’s part of the business these days but to not care about longevity at the head coaching position is unwise.

My point exactly, OU coach left for greener pastures so did ND coach,there nothing that’s going to stop a coach leaving for greener pastures. Just hope the next one works out. I’ll take 3-4 years of 12-0 or 10-2 including and possible CCG and PO’s

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I disagree……

And you used OU? I think I would trade all the incredible years they had….and what to suck for a year every now and then…. No problem.

You haven’t gotten to experience the years and years of suckness and irrelevance that most of us had around here…… I would absolutely take three or four years of good football where one of them was great and then re-start the cycle….compared to someone coming in saying they want to be here forever and then live in mediocrity for years and years.

It’s like Garth Brooks says…
And now I’m glad I didn’t know
The way it all would end
The way it all would go
Our lives are better left to chance
I could have missed the pain
But I’d have had to miss the dance

Sign me up!

Goin’ full Garth baby!!! Bring me a MERCENARY!

Lincoln was at Oklahoma for about 7 years. A couple years as OC and half a decade as head coach. I’m just advocating that stability like that is what leads to success and it seems like that kind of stability and continuity isn’t being taken seriously here.

With the new NIL and transfer eligibility rules, teams that lose their head coach to a bigger school aren’t just losing their coaching staff but also most likely some of their top current players and commits. Where would OU be right now if Lincoln didn’t take Caleb Williams and a couple other of their top talents to USC with him?

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I agree with everything you just said……would I love some hot new coordinator that is the next big thing….of course. And I wish that coach would not only haves in the top 20 every year but to be happy and stay here for the long haul.

I just don’t think it’s gonna happen……waited along time and I’m not seeing it….1) Cool new guy, successful, great results, damn Ole Miss is calling( his wife caught him “looking “ at other woman and he needs personal time……new guy gone, 4 years later minimum.

  1. Not as good coach comes in and says sure I’ll stay…y’all will have to fire me to get me to leave….starts slow, has a little success but then realizes why am I working so hard? They won’t fire me….at least for another year or two……hey fellas party at mi casa….huh? Games not till noon, we can do a walk through right before.

If those 2-3 years gets us back to where we were with Herman, I’m all for it.

What makes you think he would do it again?
This is why the orange vacas hired him right?
Did he turn them around?
He gone.
Was he in the conversation this off season for mega, huge jobs?
NOPE.

In his seven years as HC……

Ruhle had two good years at Temple.

He had one good year at Baylor.

He had zero good years at NFL Carolina.

His bowl record was 1-2. He didn’t coach Temple in the 2016 Military Bowl, but the Owls won.

What Ruhle is really good at is seizing opportunities to make a lot of money by changing jobs after one or two good seasons.

To be fair, the upside of him as our HC would be his NFL experience might be attractive to potential recruits.

Hypothetically, if we were to make a unexpected coaching change, Ruhle doesn’t have the resume that would suggest he would stay long at UH.

Consider the downside……

If he were to leave earlier than expected we could experience a lot of good players going into the transfer portal.

If that were to happen we go back to square one and his reputation among Coog fans would rank somewhere between Briles, Sumlin and Herman in the HOF of despised former HCs.

Food for thought.

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We don’t fire coaches that win the AAC like Dana will do this year.

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If CDH has a terrible year next year in Big 12 and goes 0-9, 1-8 or something like that, we WILL fire him…Khator’s decisions are performance related. Its all up to CDH and how well or poorly he does next year…

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Rhule did a fantastic job at Baylor, taking over a bad, scandal plagued program and turning them into big winners. He would be very successful at Houston given the opportunity, and i think he would put together a great staff to support him, too. Time will tell on this.

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Rhule may be a decent coach but he’s overrated. Baylor guys on Sic’em 365 talked about how frustrating it was while he was at Baylor as it seemed that he had one foot out the door the whole time. I don’t want Herman 2.0

I respectfully disagree…

Art Briles was the one who did a fantastic job at Baylor before the scandal ruined his career. Art accomplished a highly improbable turnaround that several previous Baylor coaches could not accomplish.

The scandal was indeed bad and he has endured national scorn, but keeping the conversation focused on football only, he was a genius head coach.

At Baylor, Rhule had one good season, then moved on. He never defeated a ranked team. Rhule may very well be the outstanding head coach that many on this site believes he is, but he is one or two good seasons away from jumping.

Hypothetically, if I were to roll the dice on a replacement HC for UH it would be Jamey Chadwell of Coastal Carolina. His resume reminds me of Urban Meyer’s coaching record and he’s only 45 years old.

Some people are always looking for the next guy. I prefer loyalty

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On the one hand, we don’t need a lifer and can’t really build our plans around that.

On the other hand, we can’t build a program while replacing coaches every 2-3 years. All it takes is one bad one to set you back and that provides too many opportunities for a bad one in addition to the stability problem.

Look at the schools that have elevated and they had coaches that stuck around at least after a little while. The closest to a counterexample I can think of is actually Temple, where it worked until they hired a bad coach. Or UCF maybe, though one coach who stuck around deserves a lot of credit for that.

Maybe a 2-3 year coach like Rhule or Sanders to jump-start us, but it’s a temporary fix.

Can’t blame Rhule for leaving Temple for Baylor, or Baylor for the NFL. But it sounds like he would spend his time at UH looking elsewhere and that’s something to consider. That’s not a dealbreaker (see previous paragraph) but it’s not a good plan past the very short term IMO.

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