If P2 Becomes a FACT without Big12 & ACC:
What are some ideas for an acceptable and competitive model for The rest of college football moving forward?
I’m not looking for denial arguments. I don’t know that this is going to happen.
Call the new league with Big 12, ACC, and others the NCFL.
Who would be in the league?
What would the NCFL do for a championship?
What would revenue look like?
Would you recreate conferences into regional members to reduce travel costs?
Any thoughts?
Another thread about this? Why can’t we just enjoy the Big12 and focus on that if it happens later on?
Most of us are simply hoping and praying that there ISN’T a P2 breakaway, simply because we realize that such a breakaway would most likely NOT include UH, and would be a disaster for our programs.
The less we think about such a thing, the better, because I can’t envision any outcome under such a scenario that would be good.
As I see it, the only thing preventing it from happening is the fact that there are so many content providers out there looking for college football content that the P2 will not be large enough to fill all the slots…FORCING the networks to consider at least one more conference, and a minimum of 70ish teams.
Don’t get me wrong. I was there when we were left alone at the altar in the SWC.
Like you I’ve struggled with living in the G5 world. I felt rejuvenated when we finally got into the Big12 with Yormark.
But I’ve also seen enough at this point to know the landscape is still changing and the Big12 and ACC have been locked out of the meetings that are shaping our future in college football.
This was more an exercise in avoiding being an even bigger casualty in the apocalypse of P2 football.
First option would be legal action for collusion.
At that point, perhaps the Feds can get involved with some sort of anti-trust action for monopolistic practices.
The Clayton Act, which restricts mergers and other actions that severely restrict competition (would a P2 breakaway super league be something like that?), and the Sherman Act, which prohibits “concerted activities” (agreements) that foster exclusive dealing and monopolistic activities (such as the P2 creating an exclusive scheduling deal) could come into play at that point.
I appreciate that information. I am only vaguely familiar with those acts.
Do these acts prevent the SEC & B1G from going off the reservation? Or would they be invoked as part of a lawsuit after the fact?
They wouldn’t prevent any action by the schools, but COULD be used via either the Justice Department or via private party lawsuits in response.
Before it happens threaten legal action.
Also threaten and be prepared to have all left out schools drop those offending schools from all other sports schedules.
Basically, kick them out of the NCAA.
Big 12 should be going after FSU and UConn
That’s the answer.
If FSU, Clemson, UConn etc. have a value that could save us, the SEC/B1G would offer them a spot with revenue that the B12 could never come close to offering.
You see, I still believe that the B12 and ACC schools are still worth the revenue that’s currently in place (maybe even a revised PAC + the best teams from MWC & ACC & the 3 military schools). It would certainly be a competitive league. Can we live with those numbers? I think we could.
UConn would not add value in the sport that matters most: FOOTBALL.
That’s why we told them no way.
FSU and Clemson would…but I’m guessing that if they win their lawsuit, they’ll do all they can to get into a P2.
Only if the P2 says no would we be a decent “fall back” plan.
At that point, OF COURSE we would take them. That would put us significantly ahead of the ACC and in a legitimate “P3” conversation.
Mods…please…don’t need this thread….delete thread, ban OP and SWAT him. Thanks.
I may have accidentally touched an exposed nerve. Wasn’t my intention.
I didn’t think I was writing something viewed as perverted and subject to an execution.
I know what ban OP means. What does SWAT him mean?
I was thinking rather than 10 threads that talk about different news that all point to this possibility that we don’t control our future in college football, we think ahead that if this does happen (what could we do to make things work).
I’ve heard of anti-trust actions related to mergers. Have you ever seen an anti-trust claim related to a spin-out?
It could be a Sherman Act “contract, combination, or conspiracy in restraint of trade” if it is a contract that keeps out TV competition and makes TV deals exclusive to them.
Never mind. I know what doxxing and swatting are now. I was wondering if this was sarcasm. I normally catch on.
Let’s beat ‘em in the Playoff
How is that you speak out of both sides of your mouth??
You say the P2 will not be bigger than 36 schools and that 48 is TOO MANY and then you promote 70ish schools…lol
A P2 BREAKAWAY, IF it happens, will likely not involve more than 36 (max 38) teams, NOT 48.
BUT, it is UNlikely to happen, in my view, because that number of teams, or even 48, will not be enough to fill all of the slots that the content providers and networks need filled.
70ish teams are needed for that, which is why I don’t see there ever being fewer than three “power” leagues, much less a P2 breakaway.
I hope I’m right about that, because if I’m not…then it could be bad for UH.
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