After 10 yrs 60k isn’t bad then 70 and 80k prob after 20 plus the pension , plus again holidays and 2 months off has to be factored into it. So then after 20 yrs they have a good deal bc many corporate workers don’t get deal. Plus less likely to be fired. Initially low pay but the deal gets steadily better vs corporate where anything goes with no guarantees.
Gov workers get more security, more holidays and better vac and a pension.
Corporate only gives you more pay and that is only in certain fields etc.
So people keep failing to look at the big picture in gov / teaching vs corporate which is basically the Wild West.
Not close to anyone in a tech industry or medical industry. Only if you factor in other fields like social work and non-college grad jobs to the averages is it comparible.
Exactly 10 years anywhere in the professional private sector you should be over 100 unless you’re someone really just hiding out and coasting (not judging) anyone who says otherwise probably still thinks a quarter allowance goes a long way.
I was working 80 hour weeks for 5k-7k extra on top of my 30k base.
The extra 40 hours a week for 5-7k from 2000-2007.
Many districts, many schools don’t put in the same hours as others….depends on your head coach and how much pressure is put on them.
I coached 5A ball for a team/school that was regularly a player in the state playoffs.
I moved over straight basketball and became a head coach.
I have always coached showcase baseball outside of school for 20+ years.
And as far as “pension” goes……it does not accumulate the more you coach….you receive a percentage of your three highest paid years….has nothing to do with how much you coach.
It’s definitely an area situation, my wife’s uncle taught and coached in Illinois for years and years and he was paid quite a bit more for the double duty and it allowed him to retire about 5 years or so earlier than of he had just taught alone.
So in a shocking turn of events Texas boned you. I know color us all shocked.
Most/many people believe they should be getting much more pay than they are, and they also want to have others in service get paid as little as possible. The current “me” world. They also want no responsibility for success of teachers as parents of the children (in some cases) as “that is the teacher’s responsibility”. That all leads to little respect and less pay for a very important profession.
That said, there is also a lot of waste in public education spending.
Teaching is an important profession, but much of the value in teaching is the fact that it’s essentially a free babysitter that’s funded by tax dollars (unless you’re sending your kids to expensive private schools)
That’s why nobody cares about the success of teachers or whether or not they’re uncredited. Parents just need someone to watch their kids all day, and the Covid lockdowns was proof of how much teachers are really thought of as babysitters and not educators
And I’ll be honest, I had a few friends that went into teaching after college (credited and all) and they had no business being teachers. I had friends that were former sorority girls still getting hammered on weeknights most likely showing up hungover to go teach kids. It forever changed how I view teachers lol (pretty sure they all quit teaching by now and went into other professions)
Says who? I’m guessing no parent here would agree with this.
That’s just not true. You’re jumping to a lot conclusions on something I don’t think you have experience with.
Again with the strangely placed lol.
I did stupid stuff in college and hope no one now thinks I’m unqualified for what I do because of it. And if they all quit, not sure why you’d still feel that way about all teachers.
Because we want our kids to be taught by professionals. We also want our kids to get the social interaction and extracurriculars that comes with going to school.
Not to mention being able to deal with society where everything isn’t like it is at home.
There are lots of reasons to choose not to homeschool. There are also reasons for parents to choose to do it and I understand that side too.
If everyone home schooled, kids would be worse off then after Covid. We know that didn’t work, and it screwed up a generation of teens, my son included.
Humans are meant to be social, not isolated at home.
I have no quarrel with those that choose to home school for their reasons. That’s what a free society is.
Not to mention, not every parent has what it takes to home school. It’s a whole job in and of itself. It’s not that easy, and it’s not just babysitting (what a way to insult an entire profession, based on your friends partying in their 20’s like normal people that age).
I think we know that the pandemic response was a massive failure at this point, and I’m not suggesting I advocate for homeschooling myself
I’m happy for anyone to party and have fun, but if you actually read my post, you can see that I said that I had friends who were still living like college kids while they were teachers during school weeks. I wouldn’t be too happy if I had kids being taught by hungover teachers lol
I should un-emphasize using “friends”, perhaps friends of friends is a better description