Houston Astros 2023 Season on a daily roll

Crane better step his game up

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Individual signings. Who would you say the signing lived up to the massive amount of money they spent.

The Padres are unwinding their spending spree.

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Oof yah the track record on that hasnā€™t been great. Of the recent guys Iā€™d say maybe Mookie Betts has come the closest to living up to his. But heā€™s also only 3 years into a 12 year deal so weā€™ll see how that ages. Trouts production has talent a nose dive (mostly because of injuries). Judge is pretty early into his but I donā€™t think heā€™s going to age well given his injury history.

Edit: Freddie Freeman has been pretty good as well. So maybe the Dodgers are immune to bad signings.

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I would add Bryce Harper.

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Hate that guy but yah thatā€™s good one. His production has arguably gone up since signing his deal. Which is super rare. MVP in 2021. Good call.

Besides Montero?

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Net is going crazy about Framber being on the block

There is no way they trade Framber.

Do you see Framber as a true ACE? I see Framber as a pretty decent number 2.

So if you can trade him to a team that sees him as an Ace and you get that kind of value in return, why not trade him.

Do I see Framber as an ace?

In '22 he certainly was and for a good chunk of last year!!

If you trade him away youā€™re not going to get the same value and youā€™re basically pi$$ing away your opportunity to win another WS this yr or next.

I donā€™t want to trade Framber. But this team as its currently constructed ainā€™t winning the WS next year.
Youā€™re either getting better or youā€™re getting worse. Thereā€™s no such thing as being the same. And the Astros have not gotten better. Theyā€™re just another year older with an even weaker pen.

You donā€™t really follow the team that closely do you?

Do you really need to be given the laundry list of how theyā€™ll be better this year compared to last yr without doing anything??

Trade Framber and sign an ace.

I think it just foretells that thereā€™s no way heā€™ll be signed to a long-term deal. He would be hard to replace, but it would be better than letting him walk for draft picks. Itā€™s kind of like the Tucker discussion - acknowledge that heā€™s a great player who isnā€™t going to be in the long-term plans because of circumstances.

What we donā€™t really know about Framber is whether he may have already hit his ceiling. The second half of last year was not what you want to see from a guy who youā€™ll expect to be THE GUY. But Iā€™d still roll with him next year unless thereā€™s a tremendous deal availalbie, since thereā€™s another year of arbitration eligibility (I think) after the 2024 season

No I donā€™t know anything about them, little boy. Give me the laundry list of Garcia and McCullers. GTFOH

Gonna be better my ass.
Lol

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Keep Framber and sign an ace.

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With what extra money?

The only way ā€œan aceā€ comes to the Astros will be via trade for a Tucker package There wonā€™t be any major free agent deals unless something big changes.

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They can keep him if they want but the trade rumors are already public. Donā€™t think thatā€™s gonna help his mental. Iā€™d rather just get some value in a trade.

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I tend to agree with this approach, unless the trade return is more than ā€œprospects.ā€ But we have to face the fact that weā€™re not keeping everyone, so itā€™s a matter of figuring out what return pieces keep us in position to keep winning and making those moves.

That you think itā€™s just McCullers and Garcia shows you may watch them but youā€™re clueless