House Houston

Dude!

You couldn’t be more wrong

New York was once the New Netherlands…it’s two biggest settlements were current day Albany and current day New York City.

To encourage development, the Netherlands offered platoons to Dutch families willing to establish farms in present day Upstate New York.

While…yes, Syracuse was not an established town, the “Orange Men” influence on the region is undeniable.

You are referring to the Re-Branding in the 1930s

Syracuse was not part of New Netherland, but the school’s orange color is a reference to the Netherlands, which colonized New York State.

New Netherland was a Dutch colony in North America that was established in 1614. It included parts of what are now New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Connecticut, and Delaware. The capital of New Netherland was New Amsterdam, which is now New York City. The English took over the colony in 1664 and renamed it New York.

Syracuse University’s official school color is orange, which was adopted in 1890. The color was originally a reference to the Netherlands. The school’s athletic teams were previously called the “Orangemen” and “Orangewomen”, but the name was changed to the gender-neutral “Orange” in 2004.

Next you’re going to tell me the "Irish " in Notre Dame fighting Irish was orginally named after the Russians…lol

You are such a blow hard. I went to school 45 minutes away from Syracuse University. They’re a major rival. I have dozens of friends that are SU grads and I have been on that campus 20+ times.

Are you going to tell my about my undergrad who also has orange as a primary color next?

Just stop. You are wrong no matter how many times you post from a website selling a flag that has been the city flag since 2023.

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No because that is historically accurate.

Then you have ZERO awareness of your surroundings.

ORANGE literally means DUTCH.

The Netherlands National Soccer team wears ORANGE.

They are HOUSE ORANGE.

When James Suart’s daughter overthrew her father, the King, she did so with her Dutch Husband- WILLIAM OF ORANGE

How many more times do i need to point out proof the early settlers in that area were all ORANGE MEN?

So is the Dutch reference…

They rebranded the mascot AFTER but the original ORANGE was a nod to the region’s Dutch roots

Depends… What is your undergrad’s name?

I get it that you used AI but this is from the school’s own website.

They need a light pink and pea green throwback uniform

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If you dont think the Orange is synonymous with the exact same term for the settlers of the exact same region from a country that litetally refers to that color to symbolize their identity, then, I dont know what to tell you.

Carry on and act like the Dutch Chapter of the current United State’s history never happened.

New York City was even known as NEW ORANGE…it was that prominent in its identity in the region.

Geez…no wonder Americans are so horrible with History

Last time, blow hard. Yes, NYC was once New Amsterdam in the 1600s and yes orange is a Dutch color but it has nothing to do with Syracuse University which is 4 hours away in modern times via a car. The English won control in 1664. The Finger Lake region had barely been explored by that time and the first explorers were French coming down from Quebec. Most of central N.Y. state was claimed by Pennsylvania then and it was really only inhabited by the six tribal nations in the area.

You got tricked by AI and an art student’s website. It’s ok to be wrong.

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Don’t forget “oven”.

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How ironic. The idea of honoring the name of a guy (John Houston) that never lived in Texas and was considered a yankee (to most people)… lol.

Let see. Should we recognize him or Sam Houston, a war hero that helped Texas win its independence… the person the city was named after?

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You know nothing about History.

Are you familiar with the Johnson Reed Act of 1924?
Are you familiar with the Pro Nationalism movement following World War I into the 1930s?

The country, overburdened by the waves of new culture from the European immigrants into Ellis Island, actively sought out to reduce “foreign roots” and reintroduce " Local influences "

Syracuse University was created in 1870 as the Syracuse Orangemen.

In 1930, FIFTY YEARS LATER, they changed the mascot orgin to link it to Native American roots…right in the middle of US’s pro Nationalism movement between the two World Wars.

Want another example?

Hofstra University, also in New York, was orginally the Hofstra Flying Dutchmen but they also removed their connection to the Dutch and are now known as the Hofstra Pride.

The University of Houston has a large library building…i suggest you visit it sometime. Alums are allowed to check out books

Its not of John Houston…its of the whole Houston family.

And for the record, Sam was born in Virginia on his family’s estate

It doesn’t matter where he was born. Tell me more about Sam Houston and the prominent role he played in Texas’ independence. He lived and died in Texas, served as a general and governor of Texas. The city was named after him.

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To go back to the original topic again…

You see how much historical minutiae is being discussed and explained? That’s how I know the whole original idea as a marketing idea is a really bad one.

Fun enough history argument though.

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Didn’t take me that long. :slightly_smiling_face:

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We should not go there Dustin. We all know how bad the National population geographical/Historical knowledge is. To learn about geography or history is not that hard. Students knowledge says it all.

We can still make it work, we just need to market it thusly:
HOUSE HOUSTON*
*for the Scottish clan that preceded the slave owner John Houston, who was really famous in New York but never made it to Texas, and whose great grandson Sam was born in Virginia; after wandering around drunk for years, Sam eventually won a famous battle by ambushing a sleeping Mexican army, and then two New York land developers started a city and named it after Sam…or maybe the entire Houston family, we will never know for sure.

As long as we include the fine print, we’re good. I left out a lot of detail, so it might need to have some additional verbiage added.

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