I learned German from Volmer’s German lesson’s on the video board during UH football games. I love me some Volmer, but there is no way he had a better individual career than Riley Odoms. Super Bowl rings is a team accomplishment. I believe the intent of the question is who had the most successful individual career, or at least that is how I took it.
OMG. Ed Oliver wouldn’t get past the security system at Simon Fletcher’s third vacation house.
Fletcher was a beast in an NFL filled with beasts. He’s venerated in the state of Colorado and can’t spend his own money within 100 miles of Denver.
He was talking OL only in comparison. But i would need to look up but I’m pretty confident there were few OL that had better Pro careers thsn Vollmer. Law is getting caught up w his SB rings n such .
Oh…
All-Pro, and best protector recognition.
Unless we have another O-Lineman that was all-pro or a pro bowler, he gets our best pro O-Lineman award almost by default.
Odoms with four pro bowls and Anders with three appear to be our most decorated pros.
Sounds good Law, im for sure not going to get caught up in the back n forth you love to do. But if i just let it go n let you put Anders ahead of Fletcher, that would be bad. I know you’re younger, but i was around n watched Simon Fletcher play on many Sundays. He’s one of Top 2-3 DE that’s ever played for Denver. Sometimes you have stay away from the Internet n go w what you know . Fletcher lead Denver for like 8 straight seasons as Sack leader. He was All time leader in Sacks for Broncos until Von Miller broke his record. He’s about to be Honored in put into the State of Colorado Hall of Fame for his accomplishments during his career.
You can have the rest Sir. I’m sure the Internet will tell you that Anders was better.
Edit: n pls don’t conpare the Pro Bowl amts. One year he had 17 sacks, 99 tackles n got voted out by Derrick Thomas going ahead of him. Go w the eyeball test sometimes
I’m in my 50s Bro, and have attended UH games since 1977/1978.
I saw Fletcher play lots of times, including in person with my family’s season tickets growing up.
He was a great pass rusher! Perhaps the best Pro coog at that role.
But he never made a Pro Bowl and never made an all-pro team, which suggests that in his time, he was never regarded as being among the very best at his position, either by his peers or by the sports writers.
Odoms and Anders are the most decorated Coogs in that regard.
Should Fletcher be elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame (so far, No Coog has), I’ll reassess.
Ok Bro, you win. Mr Fletcher’s family forgives you. I guess they just put anybody name up on the Mile High concrete walls. Not worth it.
For sure Anders says thank you.
Edit: N just to be clear my response was when u made comparison to Anders Pro career, nothing to do w Riley Odoms… another great Broncos player.
We’ll strongly disagree on Fletcher vs Anders n let it go!
Anders wins that match up three pro bowls to none.
One thing I’ll say, at least your consistent. When it doesn’t line up your way… hang on to that one piece of thread. Just bad bad.
N you made me look him up… but Bro bro bro, Mr Anders had just over 2200+ rushing yrds in like 10 seasons .
I’ll leave it there bc he’s a former Coog and had good NFL career, but no comparison imo to Fletcher.
I guess the Pro Bowl takes precedent over the whole body of work
We’re good.
He also had an additional 2800+ yards RECEIVING including six straight seasons of 40 or more catches (and three seasons of 60+ catches) out of the backfield.
In his time, he was definitely considered among the best of the best in the NFL at the FULLBACK (which never gets as many carries) position.
He could hurt opponents in more ways than one.
Paul Harvey would say….now you know….the REST of the story!
Flag! 15 yd Personal foul.
We put out a lot of first and second rounders in the first and second round.
Wilson Whitley, Leonard Mitchell, Hosea Taylor, Guy Brown and others.
Whitley was the best DLineman we ever had here, and Lee Canalito may have even been better had he not suffered that brutal knee injury.
And plus they all had their own jackets for cooler weather
Here is the Pro Football reference page showing UH players in the pros…
FWIW (likely not much) they use a metric known as AV (Approximate Value). Explained here:
The top UH player as far as Career AV is Greg Brezina
he was a beast, and had the ugliest knee I’ve ever seen. Went on to a boxing and acting career
No…Robert Newhouse has been our school’s greatest pro. Ed has had a great career, though.
Riley Odoms, Dickie Post, Elmo, Hilton , Brazoina, Brown…had great careers.
But Gator was certainly one of my all time Coogs
Outside of the Run & Shoot QBs, Newhouse had the gaudiest stat with over 1,700 rushing yds in one season. Second that season to Ed Marinaro, from Cornell.