Yeah.
Itâs surprising that they donât list other engineering majors, and business majors there.
Iâm guessing that the numbers for Chemical, Petroleum, Electrical, and regular Mechanical Engineering (as opposed to Aerospace) would be even better.
Iâm also guessing that Accounting and Finance majors would do better.
That said, those Art History, English, History, Sociology, and Liberal Arts majors can always go to law school and end up with better numbers than all those on the list.
I wonder what the future holds for those majors once AI matures. Theyâll be even less employable.
Agree, nothing wrong with those degrees if you know what you want from it. Iâm not sure most that get them do though.
Another interesting data point would be isolating based on where you get the degrees from. A liberal arts degree from some schools is much different than others.
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I have a BFA and I have done well and I am highly employable. But as you said, it is knowing what you want to do with it. It helped me develop critical thinking skills that employers value.
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Yes even the worst major has a 92% employment rate.
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That might be the most impressive part of the chart!
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That is the true purpose of what a college degree should be, congrats to you.
Yep, I was recently reading an editorial out of Kenyon College, a top 50 national liberal arts based in Gambier, OH, a town of 2200 just over an hour NE of Columbus.
âKenyon could also better equip students for the professional world by strengthening its college-to-career pipeline and making further use of its network of alumni. This would result in higher median salaries for Kenyon graduates, and would hopefully help Kenyon move forward in solving one of its biggest shortcomings: return on investment.â Kenyon costs $84K per year if youâre full pay. 35% are full pay, 43% receive need based aid and ~25% receive merit aid.
The author is a '23 Econ grad from California who now works at a consulting firm in Boston, where he employs quantitative and qualitative research methods to support expert testimony and provide advisory services to clients in complex economic and financial litigation matters. If you go to a basically open admissions university and major in the liberal arts youâll graduate and wait tables for a while. If you go to a competitive university, you still might need an economics or science degree in the liberal arts to show your capability with complex thinking and adaptability. Otherwise, keep the grades up and go to law or other graduate school. The key is keeping the grades up and not just graduating.
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The invention of student loans has sent millions of more kids to college that technically werenât supposed to go conceptually. It essentially became an investment with the expectation of ROI
College was predominantly for the wealthy, and so the idea that an arts or humanities degree was a waste of money wasnât really a concept. And still to this day, a degree in the arts isnât a waste as long as you have some sort of financial backing to go to graduate school or have a job lined up regardless of major.
That said, would I ever advise someone to major in Art History at UH? Absolutely not lol
BSEE!
That sounds elitist.
Student loans arenât the problem. Itâs states not footing the bill to the extent they used to.
I took student loans out in the 80s. I wouldnât have a degree without them. (Sidenote: Interest rates on those loans were quite a bit higher than the loans I took out in the 90s for grad. school).
And to your other point, thereâs nothing wrong with having a better educated populace. If college was cheaper, then the necessary return on investment would not need to be so great.
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Where are you getting this? I didnât come from a rich family, yet they were able to send me to UofH in 1986. It wasnât a school full of elites by any stretch of the imagination. Tons of schools fell into that category before student loans became a thing.
The calculus that changed was how easy it was to get a student loan.
I took out a loan my senior year just to pay basic expenses. I had to study hard my senior year, so i worked in the gym, handing out towels. It was great for study. Made minimum wage, so I needed a supplemental loan.
Most UofH students I knew (and most from the Greek system) all had jobs. Mainly as waiters and such.
This was 38 years ago. U of H is much more elitist now then back then.
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The availability of student loans has skyrocketed college tuition. I thought my 200K for my education was crazy, I graduated dental school in 2008, but now I see young dentists 500K in debt. Just to add some perspective I bought my office for 830K.
All these guys end up working for a corporate dental office getting paid on a percentage of their production. Lots of hungry dentists at those places and lots of over treatment but I digress.
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Youâre not kidding, my kids dentist re modeled their office and all of a sudden my kids have cavities they didnât have before!
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Iâm mainly referring to college closer to its inception and the early 1900s, where college was very much elitist