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Start a new thread if yâall are going to debate Columbus. Stop hijacking the antisemitism thread. Thanks. @FormerShasta
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Why hide that? They donât kick them out of rallies. They freely associate with them. Eff them.
Because Iâm trying to avoid politics. I donât understand why I have to keep repeating that.
âAntisemitism canât be ignoredâ
Unless itâs allowed by a political party and candidate. Got it.
Sigh. Donât be obtuse. We arenât supposed to be political on this board. As a mod, I try to follow the rules.
And Iâm pretty clearly not a trump supporter. Itâs not as if both sides have an antisemitism problem anyway.
My focus was on Lindell. You can focus somewhere else and thatâs fine.
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We were trying to avoid the partisan arguments that will distract from the focus on antisemitism. Such as which party is more antisemitic or which party is better for Israel. It is a delicate balance.
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Is that antisemitism or anti Israeli policy?
Are these anti-Semites?
From what I can see in the article and pictures, Iâd say it is anti-Israel as they didnât have any antisemitic signs or slogans reported. However I wasnât there and only saw this article. I will say that then accusing Israel of genocide is troubling as I assume they do not use that word for any other country or terrorist groupâs actionâs.
40K Palestinians now killed since Oct 7 2023 including 14k children.
That people will protest that should not surprise anyone.
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Who said anyone is surprised about protests? Did you join this thread just to debate the war and Israel policy? If so, we need to move it to a new thread because that is different than what this thread is intended for.
Bringing up the idea that something against Israel might not be antisemitic isnât allowed here?
I do my best to separate anything strictly against Israel policy from what is truly antisemitic. However, we have seen that many people do not.
For instance, is this guy protesting Israel policies here?
Or is this guy?
Now is this simply about Freeing Palestine or Anti-Israel or is it celebrating genocidal actions of Hamas?
Now are people protesting for Palestine outside of a Jewish elementary school antisemitic? Assuming they arenât using slogans like âfrom the river to the seaâ or âglobalize the infitadaâ. Iâm going to say that is quite possibly antisemitic. A Jewish elementary school has no effect on Israeli policy, and it is a sign youâre protesting Jews rather than protesting Israel. Youâre mostly there just terrorizing children and showing ignorance.
Much like how in the past we have had protests outside the HISD Chinese Immersion school and the Arabic Immersion school. Those were certainly anti-asian and Islamiphobic actions.
Now I will say something that I know a number of Jews will disagree with me on. I donât think it is antisemitic to wear a Keffiyeh or to wave the Palestinian flag. Especially not at a protest.
Now, when you celebrate Hamas and other terror groups whoâs intentions are genocidal as part of your âanti -Israelâ protest, that is offensive and antisemitic.
When you scream about Israel committing genocide while at the same time ignoring (or outright denying the fact of) the hostages that were taken over a year ago, the rapes, murders, and barbarity that happened on October 7, or the thousands of missiles sent by Hezbollah into Israel over the last year that killed Israeli Druze children and drove people out of their homes, you should ask yourself why?
Why is it that the world called on Israel to have a ceasefire for Ramadan, yet did not push for a ceasefire from Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippor.
Why is it that so many of the people looking to free Palestine and vilify Israel ignore things like what Hezbollah has done in Syria, whatâs happening in Darfur and Sudan, etc. Why is it Israel that gets the focus?
Some of those are rhetorical questions. This overall was a long answer but did that answer what you were asking?
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My intent of this thread was to share just how pervasive and dangerous antisemitism is currently. I have tried to stay away from partisan political matters on antisemitism because the arguments they attract distract from the purpose. I also have tried to stay away from the ear in this thread for similar reasons.
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Iâve met very few anti-Israel/anti-Zionist folks that werenât, at their core, fundamentally anti-Semitic.
The resolution passed overwhelmingly by the House, and then the proposed changes to the civil rights act on anti-Semitism, both essentially define anti-Zionism as a form of anti-Semitism.
By that definition, very few of those protestors would not qualify as anti-Semitic.
It is what it is.
Is it possible that heâs reacting to things like this?
Does that justify his statements? Also, Jake Shields has a history of antisemitic remarks so I donât believe it was just a reaction or over reaction.
The nine Israelis who abused this prisoner were arrested and will be held to account as they should be for a disgusting act. You do not see any Jews or Israelis celebrating what they did or praising them. While yes, the abuse never should have happened, it is not going unpunished nor is it being justified by anyone in the Israeli government or elsewhere.
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Yeah, no. Consider the source. That Jake guy is a POS, always.
Shooting the messenger isnât a valid refutation.