I prefer cold Dr Pepper in a bottle.
If I recall correctly, in times past, all Rice students were on scholarship. Did you know that Rice used to own the previous Yankee Stadium?
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What does that have to do with anything
No more than Stanford has to do with Utah or excluding Rice because they were not P4. It seems folks forget that UH, UCF, Cincy, and TCU were all G5 before being admitted to the B12.
It was also in reply to your post that said, “Rice is a school where you either go to get a scholarship as an athlete, or you are likely from a wealthier background to get your undergraduate degree.”
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Stanford is sports school. Check out the Director’s Cup…
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill won the award in its inaugural year, but then Stanford University won the Division I award for 25 straight years until the streak was broken in 2020–21 by the University of Texas. Texas repeated in 2022, Stanford regained the cup in 2023, and Texas won again in 2024.
The NACDA Directors’ Cup , known for sponsorship reasons as the NACDA Learfield Directors’ Cup or simply as the Directors’ Cup , is an award given annually by the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics to the colleges and universities in the United States[a] with the most success in collegiate athletics.
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Their natties are all in sports nobody pays to watch, like tennis and synchronized swimming.
In football and men’s basketball, they haven’t been relevant for years.
Were they a B1G member, they’d be dead last in BBall attendance by a wide margin, and in football, just barely ahead of NW, only because the latter is building a new stadium.
Their TV viewership is rock bottom.
That’s why the only power conference that would take them was the ACC, and only then at 1/4 shares.
And it is that lack of fan interest, just like with Duke, NW, Vandy, and Rice, that will prevent them from being an NIL powerhouse.
Moreover, their academic standards will make it nearly impossible for them to become either a TP or JUCO recruiting power as well.
Doesn’t look good for them.
You think it’s cheap to run and win in those other sports? It’s telling that the school that knocked them out of the cup was UT. The point is, they have the means to be successful in anything they want to. They just need to choose to.
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Exactly. Even if Stanford would hire Saban a certain poster would write it means nothing. Luck is nobody for that certain poster. Getting Stanford makes geographical sense. At this time getting Notre Dame and Stanford would be epic.
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I brought up Stanford as their basketball team seems to have promise based on winning at UNC this year. Utah whiffed in football and scoring 36 pts in a bball game last week doesn’t lend to that program being legit. Not to mention the Ute fan base and possibly admin looks down on the XII for the most part
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I was one that wanted Utah. They are a legit name nationally. During my time in SLC I met a lot of Utes at bars. They were hit and miss. I met a lot of Cougs (not in bars) and they were nearly uniformly courteous and fun to be around. I know my way around that section of the Rocky mountains because of the Mormons I made friends with. In retrospect I would be fine not having Utah in the conference. They present an ugly disposition when it comes to sports. One I was oblivious to when I spent time up there.
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Great observation. Utah always considered themselves bigger than reality. They did win the 2008 National Championship by finishing undefeated. They have been pretty good but only recently. This has brought them a sense that they belong in the big10 or sec. They regard the BIG12 like they used to regard the MWC. They can’t wait to leave the BIG12.
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Beating UNC is nothing special this season. Beating UNC this year definitely DOES NOT mean that the team beating them has promise, because UNC isn’t good.
The ACC is WAAAAAY down. It only has ONE team in the Top 20.
UNC isn’t even receiving votes, nor is Stanford.
They don’t have a national championship. They have a “national championship”
Speaking as a neighbor, (I live in Nevada) Utah is another planet. U of U and BYU are both backed by the Mormon Church and Mormons are a whole different species. They are off the charts proud (just ask one of them) and never hesitate to tell you about it. Utah and BYU (Utah State a little) are HUGE, and other than the Jazz, there is ZERO else there concerning sports. I see Utah irritating the Hell out of everybody in the Big 12 very soon.
There’s a new NHL franchise in Salt Lake as well, but yeah, for the football fan, BYU and Utah ARE the show in that state.
They finished 13-0 and got National Championship recognition votes. So they can claim one.
Utah can kick rocks
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A couple of votes are just that. When the FB coaches poll or wire service says you are no. 1, then you can claim a national championship. Some homer voting for Utah or UCF means nothing more than that. They got a vote. Claiming a natty when someone else wins it just makes that school look desperate.
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YEP
So glad we are FINALLY out of that BCS era of college football. Even the 4 team playoff was corrupt AF.
They FINALLY got it right where it has to be settled "on the field " and not by mythical voters who had their 2 BCS era contestants narrowed down to half dozen schools before the season even started.
I hated college football during that era…refused to watch anyone other than the Houston Cougars
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