UH is Top 50 Public University

I believe the UC system has an 80 percent and my understanding is that there goal is to raise that percentage. I think it’s power at UC Berkeley and UCLA, but not by much.

Also CA adopted a rule similar to Texas that if you are in the top 9 percent of your HS class you can get into any state school or something like that.

My sister went to college in CA.

Uh, no.

Miniscule endowments.

R2 or below.

Endowments don’t mean much for RA nubs or quality.

Look at the endowment for SUNY Binghamton and the look at its rankings.

In the eyes of hiring in California, Cal Poly SLO is
on par with UC Irvine, UC Santa Barbara and UC Santa Cruz (step down from UCLA and Berkeley; half step down from UC Davis). Cal Poly Pomona, a step down from there.

Cal State Fullerton and Long Beach State are the best public undergrad business schools in the LA/OC counties. They are heavy hitters in the job market and compete with private USC at that level, but USC is like A&M with a similar network of bending over backwards to help one another. CSU Northridge is a step down from there.

CSU San Bernardino, Los Angeles, Dominguez Hills and San Marcos are the last tier of CSU. They have some special programs that set them aside, but for the most part, they’re very regional schools.

For the life of me, I have no idea how SDSU is ranked better than UH. It doesn’t have the best reputation in SoCal for “school”, but it does have a strong alumni base. Same with UC Riverside: it rocketed up in ranking from AAU, but I don’t get it. I drive by there all the time and with alumni that refer to it with the less esteemed name UC Ratchetside. It’s the former citrus experiment farm for the UC schools and while they have a medical school… The whole area of the Inland Empire is woefully underfunded for education at all levels.

UCSD is SoCal Rice (massive funding) without football and a tiny business school. Private University of San Diego is a major power school in the city.

When it comes to USNews rankings, it’s the bar that every school wants to get to, but its methodology is curious. I’d never consider SDSU a National University when it has only a handful of PhD programs with bandaid connections help complement what it doesn’t have internally, like building its relationship with California Western Law School (which has its own interesting history).

I have grown to like California, but I can’t wrap my head around how the schools work here or are that miraculously better when the talent output I’ve met isn’t that impressive. I’m just one anecdote and not in the real metropolises of SoCal, so my perspectives might be within a limited vacuum. Overall, I’ve found awkward entitlement issues from UC Berkeley (less so from UCLA) and Cal Poly grads.

I can tell you this much.

There are VAST differences in resources and research between the University of California at Whatever schools, and both the Cal State Whatever schools and the Cal Poly Schools.

Consider this.

The two state flagships, Cal-Berkeley and UCLA, have endowments of $7.4 billion and $3.87 billion respectively.

Cal Poly SLO, by contrast, only has a $285 million endowment.

Cal State Chico only has an $86 million endowment.

Cal Maritime has only a $10.7 million endowment.

All the public AAUs in CA are UCal schools, so given that, I’d reject any notion that those other Cal publics are in the same league.

So even in CA, there is a big system gap.

As for SDSU, it is a ranked a bit better than UH by USNEWS, but is well behind UH in endowment (less than half), and research (R2 vs R1).

I’d give UH the edge.

UCLA’s total endowment is barely more than Berkeley, but it doesn’t show up because it’s through a second Endowment Fund.

That said, I agree, if we’re saying that California pours more resources into the UC schools. It’s night and day compared to Texas. My bone to pick is how that translates to a better College experience for the average student under the guise of USNews. Every CSU is effectively a masters institution with very boutique PhDs, yet the perception is the CSUs are better than most comprehensive universities throughout the nation. It could be that California’s budget makes up for the lack of endowment, but that thesis goes against what I read in the paper. It also could be that most UCs and CSUs within a close region share lower level professors. The false advertisement just irks me that San Diego’s party School is held in such high regard on paper while within the region, it’s not perceived that way. Hell, Santa Barbara is the UC party school, but they have stupid amounts of research in environmental studies and physics.

I knew a Navy Officer in Afghanistan who was a UCSB grad. Cool guy and smart officer.

His joke was that UCSB stood for “U Can Smoke Bowl!”

:laughing:

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UH will remain fourth in Texas based on preliminary data for R&D expenditures in fiscal year 2024.

TTU - $255 million
UH - $234 million

My understanding regarding SDSU is that it has gotten major funding from someone we all know: John Moores.

Why Moores has given it so much money and not UH is beyond me, but it is what it is.