I stand corrected on ONE point?
How many AAU schools are there?
Counting the new adds, it’s 71.
Only one is truly non-traditional.
That means you are SEVENTY times more likely to make it the traditional way as opposed to the non-traditional way.
Based on that…I like the traditional odds more!
What are the local high schools doing in terms of marketing UH as a primary destination?
I know a lot of high school kids still see UH as a fall back option and that mentality could be keeping us in being a traditional campus.
How do other parents of high school kids view UH?
Do they still see their kids attending UH is a bad thing and something they can’t brag about to their other peers?
An article recently came out about budget issues at UH in part due to flat enrollment. I don’t think UH is in a position to turn down otherwise qualified students just because they can’t live on campus.
Nothing will change until the area around UH changes. When people leave campus, they don’t hang around the area, and for good reasons. New townhomes are slowly creeping closer to the UH campus, and hopefully they bring more stores and bars and places for people to hang out close to campus.
That is again incorrect law. Man why do you post “facts” that are in fact lies? Why?
If you mean a traditional AAU school is to have freshman living on campus you know that is a lie. USF is not the only AAU school to do this.
Now I had classes at every hour of the day including nights. I never had any issues walking at night, never. This was back in the late 80’s to mid 90’s.
Here is the key for U of H. I keep mentioning it but interestingly enough law has no answer or never mentions it.
The third ward needs a facelift. That will benefit third ward home owners as well as the entire U of H campus.
Case in point:
We built TDECU. Which city, schools do you know that builds a new stadium and does not revitalize its proximity? 99% of the time an hotel, bars, restaurants and offices are developed. law why is it that this was not done when we built TDECU?
That in itself describe a traditional university. Make the entire neighborhood a destination.
whitmire has a choice. Does he want a legacy; which, will be an historical facelift for an historical Houston area?
USF is not the only one without a housing mandate.
HOWEVER, nearly all are chiefly residential.
Only USF and Utah have “commuter” campuses, and Utah is a state flagship.
USF is…as I told someone else…literally the exception that proves the rule.
Take UCLA for example.
It doesn’t technically have a housing mandate, but that’s only because it doesn’t have to.
98% of their freshmen LIVE ON CAMPUS even without a mandate.
That’s what TRADITIONAL campus life is all about.
USF proved that it IS possible to be non-traditional and become AAU (before there was pretty much an unwritten rule that it was impossible).
Nevertheless, given that only one school out of 71 in the AAU fits that mold, it’s obviously a MUCH SAFER BET that you’ll get in under a more traditional model.
I’d love for UH to become more traditional without a housing mandate, but I don’t really see that happening. So that’s step one.
The other part of it, of course, is that the Third Ward needs a facelift.
What is the matter with you?
Have you ever been to the USF campus? No you have not. It does not compare with ours. The city of Tampa made sure to help USF. The city of Houston has done nothing or hardly anything to help U of H.
Stop comparing us to ucla. You know you lost the argument so you go back to a lie…again.
I have an idea. Why don’t you pony up hundreds of $M’s and build a Westwood for the entire Third Ward neighborhood? Why don’t you.
Look, I get that people obsess over these things, but times are changing. In the future, more universities are going to be like UH than the other way around. Utah is an AAU school and is more of a commuter school than UH. Same for USF.
Fact is, with the costs of education increasing, fewer people attending college, and the public support for higher education falling, all universities will have to find ways to make college more accessible to everyone. Otherwise, it will lose even more public support and thus public funding.
Just look at the recent statement issued by Pres. Khator regarding our budget. Houston’s population is stagnant, as is UH’s. The state has demanded tuition freezes, and as has been discussed by many (including myself), other states who better support their universities are throwing money at OOS students hand over fist to attract them. They are fighting over a dwindling pool of students.
What needs to happen is UH (and all schools), should not be forcing people to expend more resources they do not have to stay on campus. It should spend money to reduce tuition, make UH Campus more attractive to everyone, not just students, and to attract top level research in fields that are growing. Do that, then the rest will take care of itself. People want to support a “winner”.
Great point and it always comes back to the city of Houston beautifying the entire third ward neighborhood. I have not heard, read or seen plans to do so. Why the .h.ll not? That is what I would like to know.
Poltics…
Politicians want their residents to remain dependent on them and developers are afraid of the backlash if the develop the third ward too much.
Allowing their residents to be self sufficient means THEY actually have the freedom to decide their own politics.
Much easier to vilify the G word.
I say this as someone who lived in the third ward political district for 15 years.
Whose idea at UH was to paint the town with satellite campuses? What was the purpose at the end of the day? All it did was create more commuters
Had uh ever invested in HISD in terms of branding, etc? Who would’ve predicted its demise and the major demographic changes?
In term of gentrification- UH has played a role in the changing the area but it’s strictly campus driven noting about entertainment as I think they’re fine with entertainment options for the regular person starting across 288
thebottoms…What does that mean by the way?
Have you been to other major cities? Major universities have satellite campuses. Some of these major campuses have a distinctive major.
U of H invested in HISD? Care to expand on that?
U of H has had to scrape pennies to get anything done. Wouldn’t be nice, wouldn’t be so right if U of H benefited from the PUF?
The answer would be a resounding YES. Now that is whay you wrote. What about the entire city of Houston putting an action plan to again beautify the entire third ward including U of H? What is wrong by doing that? What is wrong by joining froces to accomplish this? Tell us thebottoms.
Lol, we have exactly two true satellite campuses in-town and one is bankrolled by NASA to farm Master’s degrees for their employees.
That said, I’m not sure what the point of UH-D is. It creates a lot of brand confusion and the only decent program it has is Criminal Justice. It’s dirt cheap, though – it’s literally cheaper than Lone Star College for out-of-district students – so I guess it has that going for it.
Sugar land
Clear lake
Katy
Downtown
Those campuses are the ones pumping out grads who don’t have a connection also - is there anything done to connect the campuses in terms of tradition?
Look at it like this - there was more entertainment in the area in the 60s, 70s and 80s and we’re talking about real entertainment that drew real artists
TSU was where everyday folks who never went to college but wanted to hang out as it was poppin’ while UH never wanted to identify with being in 3rd ward until recent - HISD was one of the premier districts still as the schools still had pride inside the community
But gentrification changed the area - little investment back in terms of housing which forced people out - the lounges went away - neighborhood pride died
See, you can now add over 4000 College of Technology undergrads to the disengaged list.
With the relatively far-flung suburban campuses (UHCL, UH-Katy) I think they primarily serve adult commuters that wouldn’t otherwise commute to UH. If you finish your work day in Katy or Clear Lake or Sugar Land, that’s a heck of a commute to UH-Main and back.
There’s also the fact that providing education to those who wouldn’t otherwise be able to access it is a good in and of itself – Houston has fewer college grads per capita than most large metro areas, and at some point that’s going to come back to bite us, economically. Austin and DFW are both ahead of us in-state, and in the South more broadly we also trail Atlanta, Nashville, and Charlotte. Satellite campuses help close that gap and provide the technical workforce that employers demand.
How do you figure this out? What do you mean/insinuate that U of H never wanted to identity with being in the third ward until recent? U of H has been an integral part of the third ward since its creation in 1927.
Moreover you mention the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s time period with real entertainment.
U of H has grown every single year while operating on a shoe string budget. The city of Houston has had plenty of opportunity and still does to beautify the entire third ward and our campus. This is a long overdue beautification plan that has and will have to be done. Pushing back this improvement is only pushing the can down the road. This is about a long term commitment to the area.
This is a good point, and I have never been a fan of this.
You continue to astound me. What is a false use of stats and you double (quadruple by this point) down on a falsehood and seem happy about it.
You need to return your degrees, at least to the two AAU institutions you claim to have graduated from. You simply are not smart with numbers, but I give you credit for consistency and determination.
Good luck with it. Maybe some tutoring.
I am looking forward to seeing TCU (not really for BU) with their 70 times more likely stat to get their AAU acceptance because of the traditional campus.
He is determined for sure:
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