Check the following video:
Why would someone that has lived there for 40 years to be forced out of their home? I do not follow you there. You have renters all over, not only in the third ward. If I were a third ward home owner I would want to have investors coming in to improve the neighborhood. Why would I want dilapidated buildings next to my home?
Im specifically talking about the Irish that were forced to move out of the Five Points in Manhattan so the city couldrevitalize that areaâŠ
Are you familiar with the deplorable inhumane conditions there.
If this was today, every politicians would fight to keep them in that Hll Hole with the same arguments against Gentrification.
The Third Ward, albeit not as bad, is still a horrible place for its residents.
Look at the statistics, that area ranks among the worst in the entire CoH in many categories
Cities in the south are Equal or Worse.
Look at New OrleansâŠdo you think the areas the slaves, freed blacks or newly arrrived immigrants lived in were quality parts of the city?
All major southern had that issue
It was a real schitthole in its heyday.
Yet TODAY there would be riots preventing gentrification same wirh the hundreds of other examples where everyone brnefitted in a short period of time.
Getting people out of deplorable conditions is not displacing themâŠItâs saving them and if they want to stay in their areaâŠitsba significantly upgraded area.
Chris, Iâm well aware of the history of 3rd ward. That video doesnât show where you got the 45% unemployment from. Thatâs what I questioned is your statistics. Do you have a link for that because Iâm finding much different numbers.
It happens when they can no longer afford the taxes which have increased because of the value of their lot increasing. Or because a new improvement district with new taxes was created. Or it happens if they were long time renters and the property gets sold to developer.
You do realize that many of those dilapidated residential buildings ARE their homes.
All I was saying is there is a balance you need to take into account. Not everyone is going to see an immediate benefit and some may see other non financial âcostsâ to it. It is not a cut and dry situation, especially when you (as I am) are looking at it from the outside rather than as a member of that community.
Just thought about this, one obstacle to redevelopment can also be that some of those properties may not have a clear title, where there are legal questions of ownership because of different marriages, divorces, inheritance, etc that may not be well documented. Iâm sure someone in real estate can explain it better. But sometimes that is why a building or property stays dormant for years not just that the owner is sitting on it as an investment.
I adjusted the numbers meant to write 47% below the poverty line not 47% unemployment. . Neighborhoods do evolve just like it did after segregation was lifted. It is valid for everyone in any city. Houston might be more noticeable since there is no zoning. Take the Greenspoint area that had a vibrant mall in the 80âs. What is Greenspoint today? 47% live under poverty line.
You still havenât answered my question. Where did you get your numbers from?
Greenspoint was over saturated with apartments in a flood zone and entry level housing all around it - it was designed to fail if the economy tanked - plus itâs rural in a lot of parts behind it
Problem now is this new age third ward resident isnât there to invest in the community- they are there living for convenience if anything - those town homes arenât designed for families - anything new those folks have their kids at schools and activities way out the way
The areas with the older renovated homes ainât bustling with life also
The schools donât reflect gentrification by no means as the enrollment is way down and plummeting- youâve had schools close
Watch the video. It clearly says 47% live under the poverty line.
Greenspoint is near IAH with major offices and was thriving at one point. Greenspoint is the way it is today because of Houston having no zoning laws. It has happened to other Houston neighborhoods too. Rural where?
Heâs clearly asking about your original unemployment stat.
You said the third ward unemployment rate is 45%. Where did that stat come from?
Beautification ought to be a near future goal for the third ward.
Since it wonât get answered, the third ward unemployment rate is less than 10% per what I found.
Not sure where the 45% came from but itâs way off.
The other point is can the third ward afford to stay the way it is?
TSU would greatly benefit from this âbeautificationâ
Just drive off Aldine Westfield to the north / or take a back road to the airport and youâll see what I mean itâs all around
Someone has to purchase those seedy motels and you gotta convince churches to leave as both occupy plenty of land around there - also you think itâs a good look if your hear tsu is displacing residents considering the history? You wonât get the same pushback if UH does it or the state but theyâll cry foul if tsu did it
Tsu does own a lot of land in 3rd ward though for future use
I was asking about the unemployment stat of 45% that you originally posted. Not the 47% poverty line that you changed it to when you edited your post. So where did you get the unemployment stat you first used? Did you make it up out of thin air?
While that video was well done, it completely omits that the 3rd Ward was also where the Jewish community in Houston first settled prior to Meyerland. Obviously the video was done to focus on the African American community but I think that omission gives a slightly skewed history of the area.
I think t moar had a point on maybe concentrating on putting stuff on wheeler or the Calhoun side so that we donât have to wait or worry about crime.
I still donât understand the argument against people wanting to improve their neighborhood, make it safer, and create more quality jobs for their residents
NoâŠletâs keep people in their crime ridden, dilapidated area with no growth or job opportunities because we are afraid their slumlords âmightâ raise their rent.
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