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I just asked for evidenced of crimes. You apparently have none, just accusations. Got it.

You’d think with all the investigating the did…with Hillary literally testifying to congress…her literal political foes would have found something. They didn’t. Show some evidence or face reality.

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I said it was legal but it sure as hell is unethical but the Clintons were never strong in the ethics department.

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Completely legal vs bribery & wire fraud (NY Mayor charges).

bUt tHey ArE ThE sAMe!

Can you read? I am beginning to wonder.

Yes they are the same in the sense that it is international money influencing American politics. It is absolutely unethical and bad for America.

Hillary just found a way to do it legally but you would expect her to do that. Say what you want about Hillary she is smart. Short on ethics but long on smarts. The NY Mayor appears short on both.

Saudi got played by Hillary. Awesome influence. Totally the same ethically as bribery. Totally!

If that is what you want to believe go with it.

Alternative: Don’t raise money for good causes.

Big donors are always going to want to speak to the people they are giving money too. Always. That’s not unethical at all. Mostly, its donors wanting to be sure the money is going to be properly utilized…and the Clinton Foundation was found to be doing just that.

If that helps you through, I say go with it. I think your reasoning is on the line of “my husband is working late again ” so you don’t have to face facts. Ok uncomfortable analogy with Hillary and Bill but you get the point.

You are just accepting crap so you don’t have to face up to crap.

Is Hillary running for president again? Did I miss that?

Whatabout whatabout whatabout.

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No this is about the New York mayor and accepting international bribes. Which Hillary found a legal way around but Hunter and the Mayor didn’t.

Pretty dumb. Just form a foundation. The Biden foundation for the care and recovery of drug addicts who haven’t paid their taxes and carry firearms and take selfies in the nude. How hard is that? That has got to inflict someone in the Ukraine.

I am not sure what the mayor’s would be.

I’m glad you like to give advice on how to commit crimes, but once again, Hillary ran in 2016.

This dirtbag just got caught. The Democrats seem to be universal in condemnation (yes, I’m sure there are dissents). That’s the difference right there. One group embraces a felon, and the other tells him to pound sand.

There’s your very direct comparison.

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They are condemning because he stepped out of line. He is getting hammered because he spoke up.

Everything is weaponized.

Do you think his plane trips, hotel rooms etc are even are a fraction of what people in congress take? Please.

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Evidence?

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No, he’s getting condemned because he got caught. Don’t be silly.

Like I said, one side embraces felons.

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I agree with that.

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Donations to a foundation is way different than what Adams was doing. He was funneling money and gifts to himself personally.

Unless you’re saying the Clintons were embezzling money which would be illegal.

These two things aren’t the same even if you assume much of the contributions to the Clinton foundation were to buy influence (which seems pretty obvious to me).

Yeah I can’t imagine that their daughter who was chairing the foundation wasn’t getting paid. You would have to look at their administrative expenses in terms of who else was getting paid.

Even if they weren’t getting paid, they were accepting international donations as the ticket to influence.

Executives of non-profits are nearly always paid. The Clinton foundation is pretty huge so the executive is going to get paid. Is the nepotism up for scrutiny? Sure, but Chelsea has some pretty impressive qualifications.

In any case, these two things are very different, unless one thinks embezzlement is taking place.

One thing not discussed about Adams yet in this thread is he not only was illegally getting paid and taking gifts (allegedly), he was also trying to cover his tracks. Dude was knowingly breaking the law per what is alleged.

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RT no one said anything about embezzlement. Using embezzlement you are creating red herrings but I think you know that.

Inconvenient truths:

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-foundation-donations/

I know, I know you aren’t a leftist you are a centrist just searching for the truth. Ok so search.

I realize that. I’m saying that’s the only way any law was broken. It’s not a red herring. You’re making a false equivalence.

The Waltons, Buffets, and Trumps have family executives for their foundations too. It’s not unusual.

I have already acknowledged much of this. Read my posts.

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