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Cam Newton was widely known to be on the âauction blockâ Auburn paid the most and the rest is history.
Did auburn win a natty?
Yes
Reggie Bush/USC had to forego their Natty and Heisman.
Auburn got a slap on the wrist.
The ncaa has created this. Athleteâs image really did not start with the OâBannon ruling. It started with the Olympics when athletes were allowed to make money.
The ncaa has been 100% at fault on how they mismanaged the âpay to playâ approach.
We all need to face the facts. It is 100% plausible that a school will win a natty by âbuyingâ players. It has already happened. Just look through the final rankings data.
The ncaa should have been dismantled decades ago. They serve no purpose. Some might say they fund other sports. Is the ncaa the only one that could do this? Absolutely not. The ncaa has been acting as an âofficial speakerâ for certain programs. That is proof that they should be dismantled.
Since you seem to not be following along Iâll summarize. NRG is saying giving young boys large sums of money is a bad idea because they could potentially be foolish with their money and thatâs bad for society because reasons and therefore NIL which is compensating players for their athletic abilities is a bad thing. Iâm simply rebutting that argument. People regardless of age or professional or amateur status should be paid commensurate to their value especially when that value is bringing in billions of dollars in media revenue.
Last time I checked, student athletes still had to go to class and the APR is still a thing in the age of NIL so I really donât know what your entire response is about.
Pay people what theyâre worth. Period.
Nobody says they shouldnât be allowed to make money, but everything in life has a set of rules for the players, coaches, and the organizations to live by. Why should college football be any different? In college athletics there is no rules whatsoever to provide a parameter in which the players, coaches, and schools must follow. They simply could do whatever they want to cheat the system and other schools that are less fortunate than them! Such inequality and lack of guidelines are in itself the antithesis of what makes the game of football exciting since the element of surprise of not knowing which team is going to win is what draws fans to the game, but with these lack of rules and free-for-all mentality the game of college football no longer has any sense of fairness or the spirit of real competition!
Soon, college football championships are going to revolve around 5-6 schools only (If it hasnât already). Those schools are going to be UT, Alabama, Georgia, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Michigan and thatâs it! Even the great OU could find itself being pushed out of this exclusive club because its NIL might not be enough to match the aforementioned schoolsâ to allow it to compete with them! How exciting college football would be if you already know the champion of the game is going to be boiled down to one of these six schools every year? After a while the fans outside of those schools are going to lose interest in the game and the game would share the same fate as professional wrestling, only a small group of fans of those schools would still watch it! So, in the end, because of their greed and selfishness, these schools end up killing the very sport that they are already enjoying near complete domination and profits of!
Ah okay gotcha. Well even in that case, I disagree with both of you for different reasons.
To respond to what your point is particularly - again universities arenât paying these organizations. Generally speaking, yes, any person thatâs trading a skill set for money should be making what the market is willing to pay them. However, I disagree that student athletes should be classified as amateur athletes.
The NFL is obligated to pay every single member of their team. However, NFL teams are not enticing corporations such as Nike to sponsor NFL players to try and play for a certain team nor vice versa. Thereâs not recruiting or transfer portals in the NFL.
Student athletes receiving NIL for the most part are receiving said NIL to promote the entity thatâs sponsoring them. Itâs a mutually beneficial relationship that ends as soon as they leave the university. Perhaps there is a very small percentage of college athletes that are actually being bribed, but for the most part, I would argue thatâs not the case for the majority.
Yes these select few athletes are making the university tons of money, but the university isnât the one paying these select few. Itâs the entities that are willing to sponsor them to promote said entity (kinda repeating but yeah)
I think the NCAA needs to redefine what amateurism is in the age of NIL, but doubt that happens
Cool story bro
What does a âluxury tax/salary capâ look like at the college level?
Looks like a lawsuit in my opinion. That said, the NCAA just needs to enforce that the compensation for NIL is resulting in the buyer/payor utilizing the players NIL in a commercial setting that at least passes the sniff test of being an actual endorsement, appearance fee or merchandise transaction benefiting the payor for having rights to the players NIL. If that happens it will cool down some of the spending because most of the money is just straight up pay for play via NIL collectives. Donor fatigue will eventually cause this all to slow down at all but the biggest blue blood programs. Jock sniffing NIL funders all expect to win big as a result of their money and they canât all win big. The 12 team playoff will help keep 20-25 programs digging deep, but if all you ever get is another 7-5 season in a crappy bowl for your money youâll eventually call calf rope.
Law dropping knowledge as always.
There are guidelines for NIL; they are set by the state. What the complainers are complaining about is that they want one standard imposed by Congress on the entire country so that SEC schools like Bama and Ole Miss that are stuck in crap states can still compete.
Your complaints appear to be more about parity; that has way more to do with ESPN, FOX and NBC and less to do with NIL. If you want to blame someone for why only like 6-10 schools are competitive, blame them. They created a pecking order by basically providing 24/7 coverage to those schools and thus blocked out everyone else. That started in the mid-1990âs, almost 30 years before NIL even existed.
Thatâs an issue, and it is also why @HoustonCoogster may be off base.
According to Justice Kavanaughâs concurrence in the USSC decision referenced above, there may very well be NO limits to NIL.
That is to say, NO rules to govern this.
And thatâs why NIL is such a nightmare for schools like UH.
It really only benefits schools like aTm that have BOTH a) a lot of wealthy donors, AND b) said donors that give enough of a schitt about football to fill the NIL honeypot.
UH likely has neither.
Thatâs a recipe/formula for WIDENING the gap between the haves and have nots in this business.
You can fit every NBA player that has been in the league inside Fertitta Center.
https://x.com/bballforever_/status/1264741637063753728?s=46&t=VrBKlC5n4Ks99SnOVMmoSA
The ncaa created this. Instead of learning from what the IOC (Olympic org) did they fought it in court. The ncaa has failed year in and year out.
Who is the ncaa?
They are a cartel. It is not me writing so but SCOTUS ruled, yes ruled so.
See what is behind the ncaa:
I am a capitalist and proud of it. Did you see these salaries?
True, wealthy kids get trust funds. But some are untouchable until the recipient reaches a certain age. For example,
In this situation, you could distribute funds in a timed cadence to allow beneficiaries to learn how to handle their newfound wealth gradually. For example, your trust could specify that a beneficiary should receive one-third of the trust at age 25, one-half at age 30, and the rest at age 35, when they will have a decade of financial management under their belt.
Yes, a DL earning $90k is fine. But make it
a real deal, with a real contract, guarantees, a players union, and financial guidance. What we have now with NIL in its current state is a joke.
Iâm all for a free market in regards to NIL, but I wouldnât be surprised if regulations come into play in the next few years.
I would rather the NIL be paid out to the players once the players complete their bachelorâs degree if they signed with their original school.
If the player transfers before they get their degree, then all NIL earnings are forfeited.
Again, and not surprisingly, you are literal
the man in the box. The concept part went right by you. The discussion is not about
âlegal ageâ based on chronological time. Thatâs established and has changed over time. You get 1 point for at least acknowledging that.
Itâs what you canât see that is the concept of
cognitive mental maturity.
Paying the kids under the table was a way of circumventing paying income tax.
This NIL is a scheme to circumvent paying payroll taxes.
Whew⊠the envy and jealousy is strong in this thread. Players having a bit more payments, power and privilege really sends folks off a cliff.
I donât care what they get paid. But they are working for the benefit of the University and should get paid and get benefits by the University.
This 3rd party paying your employees system is moronic.