“replace coal plant capacity with renewable plants” means building more renewable plants. You build enough to effectively manage the capacity needed to power the grid. I’m not sure where the disconnect is. Coal isn’t currently providing 100% of our energy needs so I’m not sure what your argument is.
The argument is that is already provides a big chunk (more than 1/5) of our current electricity requirements.
There’s no reason to believe that that will decrease.
And given how much our electricity requirements will INCREASE with the use of EVs, that 1/5 (assuming it doesn’t grow) will be 1/5 of an even BIGGER whole…which…of course, means more coal burning and corresponding greenhouse gas production.
We’d all like to believe that we can simply build more renewable energy plants and that will take care of our 100% of our needs, but reality hasn’t born that out.
In the end, 61% of our electricity still comes from fossil fuels.
I doubt you’ll see renewables ever even make up a majority of our electrical output, much less 100%.
That 25% you mentioned…may be close to a ceiling…we’ll see.
They do not want to admit it that fossil fuels produces electricity.
Furthermore, how is the grid going to support this?
Fantasy
Fantasies
…and reality.
If 1000GW are needed per day and I have built renewables to currently provide 250GW per day then presumably I can simply double the amount of plants to double the amount of output to get to 500GW. Your argument seems to suggest that you get diminishing returns of output the more renewable plants you build. I’m not sure where that thought process comes from nor renewable energy’s ceiling is at 25%.
Essentially you’re saying that net-zero energy production is unattainable which the consensus of the scientific community disagrees with you.
I just showed you that coal is DECREASING, again this year. As it has in previous years.
It will be under 20% by year end.
I just showed you what percentages are of NEW generation. There is no new coal there. And we now have over 2.3 million EVs in the US.
At the end of the year, fossil fuels will be under 61% as the numbers above show you.
That 25% you mentioned…may be close to a ceiling…we’ll see.
Germany is already over 40% renewables.
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I’m so confused. Our wind, sun and other renewables must not be as efficient as the German models. lol /s
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Our electricity requirements are far greater than theirs, and will grow FAR LARGER with a switch to EVs.
Not a good basis for comparison or a good model.
That’s not just apples to oranges, it’s literally apples to MELONS.
About one fourth the population and about one-tenth the area to electrify.
Stay tuned!
Wait until you switch to all EVs.
Even if coal remains at 20%, it’ll be 20% of a FAR LARGER TOTAL electricity requirement.
And I am skeptical we’ll be able to cover it without more.
There will be a windmill every 5 ft
And they are a disaster thier energy prices are going through the roof
Not sure why people are so focused on making this binary.
We need all of the above to get where we need to be.
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What kind of brainwashed thinking is this? You don’t think that people that can afford $100K EVs realized that electricity comes from fossil fuels? I guess you have to think that in order to make yourself feel better.
A lot of posters here think if you’re not with us your against us.
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We will need all renewables + natural gas + nuclear.
Nobody is building new coal plants in the US. We are in the process
of retiring them and replacing them for the last 10+ years. I thought
this was common knowledge.
The electric power sector has retired about 30% of its generating capacity at coal plants since 2010, and no new coal-fired capacity has come online in the United States since 2013. In addition, coal stocks at U.S. power plants are relatively low, and production at operating coal mines has not been increasing as rapidly as the recent increase in coal demand. For 2022, we forecast that U.S. coal-fired generation will decline about 5% in response to continuing retirements of generating capacity at coal power plants and slightly lower natural gas prices.
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I know about coal and agree it should be phased out.
All of the above (to me) means fossil fuels must be part of the solution along with renewables and nuclear. Natural gas is that fossil fuel.
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If enough folks fall behind on their payments the government can blame the car companies for predatory practices and pay them off for us.
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And they are predatory. 72 month terms? Or 96? That’s crazy.
Pay off what, the small balances left over after the lenders repo’d the cars?
I guess the solution you’re looking for is make students put up collateral for the loans…or better yet let the lenders saunter into their homes and start picking out their belongings maybe. Yeah, that’s the ticket!
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