Moving to electric vehicles will dull recessions currently inflated by oil

The Satellite
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I am not in favor of invading Greenland by military force (or by any authoritative force)

But I think it would make sense to negotiate some sort of annexation deal if it means it benefits both US and Greenland economically

The fact of the matter is. Greenland’s ice sheets are melting, thus opening trade routes but also access to rare earth minerals that cannot be access otherwise.

When that levee breaks, there’s going to be more international interest in controlling those resources. Especially as climate change gets worse and economically extractable oil becomes unaffordable.

The USA literally has no choice to wane off of fossil fuels unless it wants to continue depending solely on foreign oil for its energy supply, because shale basins have already peaked

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I’m not talking politics

I’m talking economics and energy

I have not brought up a single politicians name, I’m merely stating what is historical facts

I question the thin line that there appears to be when discussion EVs and Energy

2469

This is political because it’s currently associated with a current politician. It’s also unrelated to the topic.

Let’s cut it out.

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2470

We aren’t invading Greenland. Take that crap somewhere else

We can trade with them though. Make your point without that garbage.

2471

When did I say anything about invading Greenland

We cannot trade with Greenland because they have banned oil extraction and have heavy mining restrictions

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Meanwhile…how about an EV battery that can last 4.9 million miles(8million km)?

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2473

Chinese nationals didn’t fly airliners into the World Trade Center, though.

2474

I see new battery breakthrough articles every month, which is great, but many of them seem to completely ignore or downplay actual costs

It would be much easier to fund public transit upgrades so that we don’t have to rely on automobiles as much as we do in the first place

2475

Given how spread out we are in the US it is not easy, which is why it’s only done sparingly and in very population dense areas.

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2476

Hilarious. People of color, energy density, now mass transit. Just throw anything and everything at it.

BTW, most of the 9/11 perpetrators were Saudi Arabian. We should have invaded Saudi not Iraq.

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2477

Let’s not go to the forbidden zone. One fact that we can’t take out from the ev, solar equation is the Western dependance on a dictatorship.
You can’t write, talk, debate without that fact.
NAIVITE has a clear and ruthless definition.

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Most middle eastern oil rich countries still have slaves. But sure, gloss over that.

2479

They have fun globes to touch. Makes them less evil.

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Sure but many of those despots are our friends/best customers. That makes their dictatorships ethically fine.

But since China doesn’t buy our toys, and is in fact directly competes in the blowing crap up industry that dictatorship is bad.

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NATO

2482

A small incursion into Greenland will probably be ok.

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It’s just mud, right?

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2485

Lots on here to catch up on…

mileage tax is good to cover all vehicles regardless of power source. Also needs to be adjusted for weight as heavier vehicles put more wear and tear and the roads.

Tax payers should not be subsidizing EVs with those $7500 or less tax credits. Let those that want one buy one on their own. (PS. feel the same about homeowner mortgage deductions - should not exists)

EVs are good in their way. The infrastructure is not there yet for everyone to get one. It i not as simple as plugging in at night as not everyone has a house, but many live in apts, condos, high rises, etc…

Removing the ICE vehicles will cause the cost of everything else to go up. Plastic is made from oil and reducing 40% production will increase costs. Good or bad is to be determined. People may also just buy less plastic junk.

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If solar and wind energy could produce plastic, cement and steel as cheap as fossil fuels, then renewable energy would already be the current energy ecosystem across the world

Fact of the matter is, it can’t do that, and fossil fuel companies will have to increase prices for refined products not directly related to gasoline transportation in order to remain profitable (not go bankrupt) because said products will still be highly in demand, such as cement and steel for road/highway infrastructure