We need someone making videos of just how bad it is. Like the one where they got 3 free throws when they weren’t even shooting
Maybe that was part of the deal with UH getting into big12………we would be given fewer FT’s than the other teams……
kind of like the SWC opponents being able to choose where they played us for our home football games…. Dome or Rice stadium.
Agree the Dome versus Rice stadium option for visiting teams sucked. However, it was only an option the first time teams visited. If I recall only TU, Arkie and Aggie chose to play at Rice stadium. Used the excuse that Rice Stadium had 20,000+ more seats.
Worth it.
Some Numbers vs Big12 so far.
How many Free Throw attemps teams average per game when not playing UH, as well as how many fouls they average. Followed by how many FTA their opponents average, and how many fouls they average. Along with the number vs UH
In non-Big12 games UH averages 20.5 FTA pg, and 17.8 fouls. The thing that sticks out is TCU getting to the line 7 extra times and the 5 less FTs at ISU. Along with our FTA going from 20 PG Non-Conf, to 10! Also, if you just look at our 4 Q1 non-con games averaged 16.3 FTA a game and 19.3 fouls.
Last nights FTA was ridiculous, but we beat them like a drum.
Or maybe we just foul more than most teams.
Not saying that is the full case, but I am siggesting it could be a real thing and at least a factor in the discrepancy.
As an example, I clearly remember Utah Jazz fans in the Stockton/Malone/Sloan era always complaining about the attempted FT disadvantage they could numericlly point to as being unfair. To me though, Sloan’s strategy was literally to foul on every single play knowing the refs could NOT call them all. So you just cant necessarily do simple math on a total fouls called number and reach a definitive and correct conclusion.
Again, not saying that explains it all, but Coog defense is extraordinary aggessive and that is likely a contributer in many instances.
Statistics aside, if you’ve watched the games, you know that we aren’t getting foul calls at the basket that are getting called against us. It’s also exceedingly rare that the other team gets “cheap” fouls, while we pick up several every game.
You just can’t point to the fact that “we foul more” as a rationalization for us almost never getting FTs despite scoring 75% of our points in the paint. Our level of fouling is irrelevant to the number of fouls called on the other team.
Whatever. We’re better than most teams we play, so the answer is just to deal with it. But there’s no denying that we’re not officiated like our opponents.
My best guess for these last 3 games is that the B12 knows they can use us to push the bubble teams into safe at-large teams and a (not so) subtle way to give us the “Welcome to the B12” treatment. Interested to see if they give Arizona the same treatment this time in a year tbh
All I ask is that they even it out a little by the time we are done with AFH bc some of these calls are even worse from the ones when we played Bama and SMU away a few years ago lol
Initially, I think it was going to be every year, but the genius in the SWC forgot to exercise the clause by some deadline and after discovered decided it would only be the first time they played UH in Houston
What a load of crap !!
I do watch the games.
Admittedly, I can’t prove you wrong about our Coogs getting unfair call treatment…because a foul call is a human (refs) judgment thing.
But that’s really the point, you can’t prove you’re right either.
You could survey 1000 highly knowledgeable college basketball fans from across the county and find out your opinion may not be the one that is most commonly shared. Us Coogs fans would agree with your opinion, and yet I contend that most others would disagree with it. The bias matters - in either direction.
I’m just saying that history shows time and again that fans are generally not best qualified to judge whether or not their favorite team is getting a fair shake on judgment calls.
Man, the FT attempts tell the story. Our guys are not getting foul calls. Full stop.
You’re trying to make it into an argument of “it’s not fair,” which ignores the facts.
I disagree, but that’s fine.
When another team plays extremely agessively (and fouls more). I hate them for it.
But when my team does it and is getting overall great results…i don’t hate it!
I’m just saying even though I’m a fan, my perception is our MO is extremely agressive play which includes more fouls.
Fwiw I think y’all are both right
Thanks. I do too.
Yeah, I’m not ignoring the fact that FANS are going to think their teams are getting screwed.
But unlike other fan groups, we actually have the data to back it up when it comes to FT attempts. Again, I’m not making the argument that we get called for too many fouls. I do see the refs let things go for a while, then randomly start tightening it up on us, but that’s not the primary issue. We just don’t get the benefit of the same calls that go against us, and it happens consistently.
Granted, I don’t really want to see some of our guys shooting FTs, but that’s not the point.
Again, we do foul a LOT.
But we took 63 shots vs Tech. Only 17 were from beyond the arc. We scored forty in the paint. And we shot 3 FTs. So tech only fouled twice on our 63 shots?
Lol.
Here’s an example. Sharp drives. Tech player elbow in his lower back. Hits him on arm. Knocks him off balance all clear as day. Nothing.
Heres another one at the 6:46 mark of 1st half. Dunn catches inbounds, feels defender arm in bad position then goes right into shooting motion and you guessed it… no call. Even the commentators said so
This one because they gave Tech 3 shots on a similar play that was far less obvious.
Call it both ways or eat the whistle. Thats all I want.
We were playing Arkansas one night (77 or 78 maybe, Juice Williams was playing) and Arkansas got a tech for something. The fans went so ballistic that after we shot the free throws they gave the ball to Arkansas to inbound. That’s all I remember about that game, I listened to it on the radio. Mike Edmunds I think was calling the game and he was beside himself as it happened. The point is, we really need to ride these refs during the games to the point where they get scared.
I wish Shead would shoot the floater 6-8 times a game. That shot is chef’s kiss sweet. It just crushes the defense’s confidence.