Big12 Basketball 2024-25

Baylor is trying to integrate a bunch of new players and scheduled an opening game to a high end team loaded with Seniors who know their system.

BYU tonight - Catchings and Demin are the real deal. Lots of BYU players are looking good. Knell and Baker were meh. I’m excited to see this team.

Shots aren’t falling at the rate I’d expect wide open looks to overall. BYUs defense looks a step slow but the players look capable - so I hope it will improve.


I think Central Arkansas is a better 1st game to schedule for a team trying to gel than Gonzaga. Both are fine choices obviously and teach lessons lol.

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Every Big 12 Team has played…

Early stock Reports of projected major Big 12 players

(not counting player who were supposed to be goid and played to around their expectattion)

Stock UP

  • Jaden Bradley - 15pts 4asts, 4 stls - arizonas
  • Zeke Mayo - 19ts -off the bench - Kansas
  • JJ Taylor - 10pts and great defense (carried them in the end) - UCF
  • Darius Johnson - 24pts UCF
  • Egor Demin -18pts 11asts 4stls 4rbs, only 1 turnover BYU - the hype is real
  • Kanon Katching - 17pts BYU
  • Max jones (19pts) & Brendan Hausen (17pts ) Kstate - were project irrelevant players
  • Kerwin Walton (7-12 from 3 and 21 points) TTech
  • Bryce Thompson (insanely efficient 22pts, 9-13 (4-5 from 3) former 5star) okstate
  • Gabe Madsen 27pts - utah
  • Jizzle James - 12pts 10ast 7 rbs (Cincy)
  • Vasean Allette - 20pts off the bench

Stock Down

  • Trey Townsend - 2pts in 26mins (Arizona)
  • Everyone at Baylor
  • Dior Johnson UCF
  • Jayden Quaintance - 2pts in 19mins (but 6 blocks)- top 10 5star ASU
  • Basheer Jihad - 0 pts in 27 minutes ASU (18PT transfer) - ASU played a weak opponent (offense looks horrendous)
  • Coleman Hawkins - 5pts in 32 minutes (2-9) Kstate
  • Dug McDaniel (2-8) kstate

interesdting notes

  • Milan Momcilovic, coming off the bench for iowa state (started every game last year)
  • david coit started for kansas who many were projecting to be the last guard off the kansas bench… aj storr came off the bench (all big 12 transfer, some argued as all-american)
  • Dug McDaniel the only super touted preseason guard for kstate did not start
  • lots of major players didnt play- langston love (baylor), jaylinn sellers & mikey williams (ucf)
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Everyone at Baylor… :rofl::rofl::rofl:

And Jizzle still the best name in the country!

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E. Washington looks really good in the first 10 minutes against Colorado…

Buffs don’t look good at all…

They turned it on in the 2nd half…

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cincy schedule which was already bad to begin the year… almost looks horrendous now

they wont know if they are good till the conference starts

villanova (horrible)
gtech (projected bad in the acc/ not projected tournament team)
and xavier (could be good, but struggled badly in its 1st 2 games)

these are the best games cincy will play till conference play… even if they were undefeated you wouldn’t be able to tell if they were #1 or #12 in the big 12 with that schedule

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AZ St at Gonzaga close early.
Three Man Weave guys Into this as just 1 game but big.

If not a thumping then bottom of B12 is looking quite good.

Tied at half. Hopefully ASU comes out hot this second half

Zags -21 in a scrap now.
ASU by 1 w 9:41 left.

#8 for ASU.
Senior w career avg of 2.6 points.

18 points and 7 Rebs so far.
Hit a deep one that was KD like.

You left out Dayton on a neutral court.

They #28 in Kenpom right now & beat #38 NorthWestern

Dayton is likely a Q1 game

Xavier Is likely Q2/maybe 1 (Sean miller will have them humming, they have a great roster)

GTech has outside chance of being a tier 1 but mostly tier 2

Nova isn’t going to be great but they will still be a Q1 game.

2 Q1
2 Q2

Is literally all you need in the big 12

Gotta remember that of our 4 good games on the schedule, 3 are away from home.

UC biggest hurdle is going to be Daniel Skillings. Some rumors going around that he will be out 6 weeks with a knee issue.

That said after seeing Hickman, CJ Frederick healthy and Tyler Betsey I think we can survive the non con

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you are aware gtech was just blown out bt UNF?.. tier 1?

vill lost to columbia and played a close game with Layfette , also presumption to say tier one here

dayton will be hard to predict becuase they lost so much… they did play a tight game vs projected bottom 3 big 10 northwestern, but a win is a win… they play a ton of quality games so theyll be exposed or validated before you game

xavier should be really good on paper, but did not look like a good team their 1st 2 games but lotsof time to figure it out

also i wasnt talking about making the tournament… even though it will limit your seeding… i was just talking how you wont be really tested for a while, you wont knnow if you are really good or bad, even if you came out undefeated in your non con

also the selling point of cincy is the depth, i think you could survive without skillings for the next 6 weeks … with xavier and dayton the only major games in that span

It’s a road game.

Tier 1 is 1-75
Tier 2 is 76-135

Losing an early Buy game doesn’t ruin a season. It’s a stupid hot take that assumes teams don’t get better after the 2nd game of the year

It’s silly to make big judgements after 2 games. I mean if we did that about Houston we’d call them over rated, say their defense is trash after allowing 1.19 ppp, and that they aren’t nearly as deep of a team as everyone thought.

But saying that Is silly because it’s just early season basketball.

North Florida is one of the better buy games in the country. It’s not season ending for them. It’s nearly certain it’s a tier 2 win with an outside shot at tier 2

As for Nova.
They went 18-16 last year, and finished 37th in kenpom and 41 in the NET

Again on the road that’s solidly in the Quad 1 category.

no offense this a is dumb take… im fine making some early season takes , but make it reasonable

saying vill will be bad, isnt a hot take, and what most people are just assuming that now… they were 18-16 last year but had one of the toughest non con and playing in a tougher big east

they eased their schedule this year, like cincy will not play in a major mte …(where they gathered most of their wins last year)… 18-16 and 41 in the NET would likely involves beating cincy… the context of their convo is how they will look if you beat them… they are not solidly q1 with any objective thinking

saying houston is a bad defense from 1 objective out of context stat would be considered ridiculous even if all you watched was the 2 games this year…

Houston held jackson st to 13pts in the 1st half and only 20 till mid 2nd half when we emptied the bench… that would be tough to do against a high school team
Houston kept auburn to 28pts in the 1st half, include 3 lucky backboards 3s … they scored in the 2nd half AFTER we got in foul trouble…30 of their 40 2nd half points came after the 10minute mark of the 2nd, whenn uzan and tugler both got their 4th foul (francis is on minutes restriction, and our 3rd string center had a season ending injury)

i just watched cbs and field of 68 post game recaps, both noted that the game actually validate that houston was good… but that so is auburn… who was up 81-25 on Vermont before clearing the bench (a projected 13/14 seed tournament team)

you comped a reasonable take with a ridiculously outlandish one

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I always feel that way watching a game from SMU, too.

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AZ State looked good in Zaga loss


SEC closest w 3 in Top 17.
https://x.com/BarstoolBig12/status/1856040208556536272

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Do you think Houston foul trouble isn’t going to be an issue all year?

Foul trouble is the game within the game. Houston always has guys in foul trouble. It won’t be the last time.

As for Nova… once again, way too early for anyone to make bold claims about Nova yet. They have 3 returning players on the team. They will not be the team they are now by conference play.

You’re a king of hot takes. You watch an exhibition and act like it’s game 22.

Auburn last to app st last year
Duke lost to gtech on dec 2nd
Unc lost to nova early
Crieghton lost to unlv
Mich st lost to James Madison
Saint Mary’s lost to Weber st
St. John’s lost to 128 Michigan
Colorado lost to bad fSU team

All those teams finished in the kenpom top 25 even after having an early season slip up.

I’m willing to bet 20 bucks nova finishes a Q1 road game.

yo missed the part that francis our starting center was in limited minutes, on minutes restriction (only played 12 minutes), injured most of the offseason… we had jwan and tugler as the only ready minutes players…

and lost our 3rd string, but we have our 4string center, he is inexperienced, he’ll get to be rotation ready by mid season… when francis gets healthy, and we feel comfortably to give lath (4th string) breather minutes, foul trouble wont be an issue

and columbia is worse than all those teams… and, a big part of my point was that not counting cincy, Villanova schedule is far worse… they could be as good as last year, the net wont be as good… they dont have the schedule, that doesnt include a win vs cincy… the big east is weaker, and their non con is poorer

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Francis actually only played 9.

Arceneaux played 12.

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vill just lost again to st joes… just to clarify when can we say they are bad…
and that they arent a guaranteed q1

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