Big 12 / Pac 12 / B10 Expansion Thread (Part 1)

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Why would any Big 12 school go to a conference that just lost its major market, its football blue blood, and its basketball blue blood?

There’s NO internet buzz about the PAC-12 adding Big 12 schools.

All the buzz is in the OPPOSITE direction.

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Football drives the revenue bus. We were told that for decades while being on the outside struggling to get crowds even when we fielded very good teams. I won’t feel guilty if we close the gate behind us. Grab the Zonas? Sure. At least they pretend to care about football.

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Just find a few schools to pair with UCF and we are chillin.

Maybe a combo of NC State, Miami, GT and Louisville

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glad everybody is liking the new map :rofl:

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That would be awesome BUT unless the ACC disbands its an insane amount of $ to leave.
Big enough that even a B10 or SEC invite cant move them until it gets close to 2036.

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This makes sense. If other schools were going with UCLA and USC, they should have been rumored with those two. It would be odd if the Big Ten raided the PAC in multiple phases.

What I don’t understand is that if the Big Ten was not going to stick to it’s regional focus around existing schools, why did they bother with Rutgers and Maryland?

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Back then it was as simple as adding cable markets got the extra $$$.

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Yeah. it is entirely feasible that for CBS to invest into college football for Paramount+, they need a minimum number of games. Therefore adding teams (even ones that don’t individually add value) increases their interest and therefore increases the per-game (ie per-team) value of our conference. It’s definitely something to feel out with TV partners and media folks.

That said, in this scenario I think there are pieces on the table that would add more than a second Arizona school or Utah. And especially Colorado State.

ETA: Maryland Rutgers are two good examples of schools that were (a) worth less than the median-value team in the conference, but (b) added value. In their case it was adding markets. I think there’s a good chance going forward it’s just adding relevant inventory (for streaming specifically).

Carriage fees with the cable companies in very densely populated metro areas. That was the most profitable model at the time. Now it is more eyeballs watching that makes the most money.

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Lol! Facts!

So what happens when football goes to the Super Conglomerates and the Have Nots? Do the Rutgers, Vanderbilts, etc get to go as well because they are in the right place?

And, if the Big Ten is not done yet, does this mean KU is leaving soon?

No.

Football brand is too sucky.

KU is going no place.

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Yes if they are members as of the next contract until that contract is up.

Doubt it w B10 on the West Coast now they are some sweet options out there.

I honestly see Phase II of realignment being when these ‘Super Conferences’ start shedding their dead weight. I actually think it will happen sooner than we would expect. This is quickly becoming a pro league. It already is in some respects.

Whatever concern I had about losing Kansas is gone. There are at least a half-dozen more valuable options on the table now that they’ve breached the Rocky Mountains. (Likewise, I thoink Colorado is SOL)

We got bit more than once by our own arrogance, ineptitude and complacency. Those days are OVER.

They took Rutgers so football must not be the one and only criterion.

Kansas doesn’t bring the NYC media market the way that Rutgers did.

No comparison.

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They took Rutgers metro area cable carriage fees. They wouldn’t have invited Rutgers or Maryland if the business model was what it presently has become with more money to be made from having actual viewers.

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